[quote=St_PatGuy]
And they probably still made more money in margin off the cable than they did off the receiver.
Probably did even though I had found the 3808 on the Internet a couple of hundred dollars lower than what I paid at UE but I was concerned with the "authorized dealer", delivery (waiting) and all thet cr*p. I also listened to speakers there. Klipsch, Mirage and some others I can't think of off the top of my head and I just didn't like the way any of them sounded.
They took me to a surround environment with the Klipschs and tried to sell me by playing the damn things so loud that you can't really distiguish music, sound effects, voices etc. so I had to pass. Loudness doesn't make it sound good but if it sounds good you can probably play it loud