The main reason for getting the VSX-33 is the pre-outs, though I don't think I will need an external amp right now, I want to have the option to add it in the future and to get pre-outs on a comparable Onkyo or Denon I would have to pay around $300 more from what I have seen. Pioneer has MCACC which might not be quite as good as Audyssey MultEQ but is good enough for my setup I think. I like Onkyo and actually set my parents up with an Onkyo receiver which has worked great, but with the features I am looking for the Onkyo and Denon are more expensive than the Pio. I am definitely looking around and this forum has helped a lot! Thanks for your suggestions JohnK.
