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#10080 - 04/22/03 10:35 AM Re: M22 Tower
JasonG Offline
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Registered: 04/29/02
Posts: 216
Loc: central Ohio
See, it doesn't even exist yet and there's already confusion about where it fits in the Axiom lineup. :-)

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#10081 - 04/22/03 11:56 AM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 737
Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
I tend to agree with John. The configuration may not be like the M60, but everything I've read from reviews and even Alan and Ian's own comments seem to mention that the M22 sounds remarkably like an M60 but with less bass extension. Since the original post is asking for something that sounds like an M22 but has more extension, I'd think the M60 would be perfect.

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#10082 - 04/22/03 12:27 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 4829
Loc: western canada
Continuing down the negative road, i have to agree with JasonG.
The M60 is the tower version of the M22 but larger, as towers are supposed to be. Customer confusion on the minor differences is already seen as many people in these forums ask about the difference between the M60 and M80.

In having auditioned the both the M22 and M60s, i found them to be virtually identical in their sound signature except that the M60s obviously had more bass extension and a larger sound expected due to the larger drivers and enclosure.
Making a tower speaker, but keeping the same small drivers, might serve to make it sound boxy and thin, and i for one highly dislike the sound of a subwoofer pulling full time duty for everything under the 80-100Hz.
A good comparison to this design is found in Totem Acoustic speakers. I find the lower end Totem speakers have this thin, boxy quality even though their overall sound is still very good.
The M22s have been reported to be a great speaker but very room size dependant. Making them into a tower could lend to the idea that they are suitable for larger rooms, which as JasonG believes, would cause customer confusion, and again, i agree.

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#10083 - 04/22/03 01:39 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 09/18/02
Posts: 737
Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
Jason,

I appologize for getting your name wrong. I try very hard to not do that. I was refering to you when I mentioned "John."

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#10084 - 04/22/03 01:47 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 04/29/02
Posts: 216
Loc: central Ohio
No problem. I'll answer to almost anything. :-)

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#10085 - 04/22/03 01:48 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 09/18/02
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Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
In that case, I'm now calling you Bob.

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#10086 - 04/22/03 02:29 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 08/23/02
Posts: 65
Loc: TO
In that case, I'm now calling you Bob.

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#10087 - 04/22/03 03:39 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern California
Chesseroo, I would be curious to get your opinion of the purpose of the M40. If you feel that a tower version of the M22 doesn't make sense, why build a tower version of the M3 (the M40), or for that matter the M50. If you could retain the M22's sound qualities in a sleek tower, wouldn't that be worth it. It seems to me that with the M60 being the preferred tower, and the M40 and M50 not having as favorable a response by the folks on this message board, a tower version of the M22 would fill the position in the lineup the M40 and M50 currently fill, except hopefully do it a little bit better. I suppose some might argue why Axiom offers any tower model other than the M60.

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#10088 - 04/22/03 05:10 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 11/22/01
Posts: 345
Loc: London, ON
Bear in mind, the M22 came out after the other speakers in the Axiom lineup (except the most recent M2i). The M3 was pretty much the reigning champion of bookshelf speakers prior to that time. In that context, the evolution of the lineup of towers, from M40 to M80, makes complete sense.

Don't discount the M40 and M50...they sound great, and depending on your room, budget, aesthetic and musical tastes, could very well be a better buy than the M22.

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#10089 - 04/22/03 06:24 PM Re: M22 Tower
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Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 45
Loc: Northern California
Good point fhw. I was just trying to make a case that a more slender tower configured like a M22 could easily fit in the lineup. I personally would prefer a tower and with all the raving about the M22, it sounded like it might fill a void in the lower end of the tower models. Actually, I don't know if there is a void, not having ever heard any of the Axiom speakers, but with all the talk of the M22 and M60 being Axiom's "best" speakers, and the M40 having a more laid back sound, maybe a tower based on the M22 would be a little better. In all honesty, I have been considering a M40 and thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts and opinions of others regarding a tower based on the M22 configuration.

On sort of a side note, has anyone else noticed that black M40's have been on the Factory Outlet page for what seems like a good month or so at a lower than normal discount. I am guessing it could be a few things. An unusually high level of defects (I wouldn't think so). Or, no one is buying black M40's. Or.... they are unloading inventory before the introduction of a sleek and sexy new model based on the M22. How's that for positive thinking.


Edited by ajb (04/22/03 06:33 PM)

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