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#101304 - 07/04/05 10:32 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
michael_d Offline
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3922
Loc: Up yonder
Oh, that’s right….sorry.

I’m still waiting to see if the Z06 will come as a roadster before I get my name on the list. I got a notice on their prices, but no mention of a ragtop option. 65K and change. Not a bad deal considering the competition it’s gunna stomp all over. 3.7 second 0-60 and in first gear……it’ll be an animal!!

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#101305 - 07/04/05 10:32 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
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Registered: 12/15/03
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Agreed - It has grown on me in the 8 months and 15,000 miles I have owned it. AWD, 24.5 MPG, LOTS of room, quiet ... and did I mention AWD ? - all for $27K ...
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#101306 - 07/04/05 10:35 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
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I think the hard part on the Z-06 will be GETTING one. Most dealers seem to want the first one for himself. I think they are planning on 1500 per year. With 5000 dealers, the odds don't look so good ...
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#101307 - 07/05/05 05:43 AM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
rcvecc Offline
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Registered: 04/17/03
Posts: 608
Loc: east haven ct
i bought a new truck last jan at 8800 off sticker and just last week i got another one at about 12000 off sticker-i dont know how much markup is in those things but im sure the dealer still made out good-i think most of their money comes from service-btw did you check out the new charger-nice looking-mid size-inexpensive speeding ticket machine

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#101308 - 07/05/05 03:10 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
I had a Ford 500 rental when I was in Seattle last month. A large step up from the standard Taurus -- very quiet, pleasant ride, plenty of room, and a cavernous trunk. Not my kind of car, but I'd rent one again.
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#101309 - 07/05/05 09:23 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
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Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 1235
Loc: Moorhead, Minnesota/US
Craig,

Considering you are a partner in a Ford dealership and seem to know something about vehicles, I'm going to step out on an auto conundrum branch and see if you can help a fellow liberal(just kidding)and or Axiom owner. Before I ask for your advice, I'm going to admit that I am of the working class, and I have children which are pretty much grown. They pretty much drain my pocket book, at times. My son, who is in college, drives an old Ford Explorer, since I can't afford to purchase him something new, wholesale pricing or not. This vehicle served him adequately until now. I'll put it bluntly. When he turns the ignition key, it turns over but sometimes it starts and sometimes it doesn't. I have had the charging and fuel systems checked out by a local mechanic, but, yet the problem persists. Everything was found to be operation correctly. I phoned a local Ford dealership technician and he said it's probably the fuel pump, which is in the gas tank. As you have probably guessed, it always starts fine at the mechanics, but once it's in the driveway it rears its ugly head once more. I think this vehicle is haunted. What do you think?

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#101310 - 07/05/05 09:42 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6722
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

Does the vehicle act up in certain types of weather ? Does it do it if it is damp out or does it matter ?
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#101311 - 07/05/05 10:04 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
littleb Offline
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Registered: 08/03/03
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Loc: Moorhead, Minnesota/US
Weather doesn't seem to have any affect on this predicament.

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#101312 - 07/05/05 10:05 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
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Registered: 12/15/03
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Littleb - I know a lot of people who think I am a liberal, too. When one is a Libertarian, one usually aggravates BOTH sides of the political spectrum, depending on the topic.

I feel for your son - When I went to college, my parents gave me a ride to school, and that was it. No tuition $$$, no room and board ... nothing. I know what being broke feels like.

Regarding your vehicle, the tech is probably right - the fuel sending unit in the gas tank is probably the culprit.

You said "old" Explorer - Ford has sold millions of those things - I bet you can find a "new" tank w/sending unit at a "junkyard" for VERY little $$$. Then find, if you can, a corner mechanic - around here they are still available - and you should be ok for very little $$$.

The "junkyards" BTW, are even computerized now, and if they don't have the right part there, they often can find one.

Another idea is to stop by a NAPA, or similar parts place, some of those guys are miracle workers - I have seen people get their vehicle "well" again with an additive to clean the system out ... which would even be better than the "junkyard" solution.

I hope this helps !
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#101313 - 07/05/05 11:38 PM Re: Anyone buy a new GM?
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Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 3922
Loc: Up yonder
Hardest part about changing the fuel pump is draining the fuel from the tank, you usually drink some. Then there’s all that road grime that falls in your face and down your shirt when you take the straps off…..not a fun job, but just about anyone can do it.

But, it could also be the fuel filter or pressure regulator, or ignition related. Pumps usually go out cold turkey. What year is it? Did the tech run it for codes? If it’s fuel related and the PCM stores fault codes, it’ll store a code for low fuel pressure. The F/A ratio will also be off if it’s a fuel starvation problem. This will show up in the exhaust sensor as whacked A/F ratio. Again, anther code. But if it’s fairly old, the codes will be erased each time the ignition is turned off.

Send me a PM with all the particulars and I’ll give you some ideas. No, I’m not a service tech. I’m just a hot rodder that likes to make things go fast.

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