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>>Could the setup be wrong?

The EP175 is a fairly small sub to use with M80s. If you can adjust crossover frequency for the mains separately (eg. HK receiver) you could try taking the crossover down to 50-60 Hz so the M80s do a bit more of the work and the EP175 just has to handle the lowest notes.

Assume it sounds "not clean" only on the loudest parts of the soundtrack ?

Hey Bridgman Thanks for the reply
I have a Denon 885/2105 for a reciever and I have set up to cross @ 80.
I will try the setting you suggested.
This Denon also has another interestins setting in that you can run both the mains and the sub at the same time- I might just try that as well.
But your right about the sub being small, that's way I started to do some research on upgrading or adding another sub.
Seems like HSU, Outlaw,SVS, and of course Axiom seem to great rating in about the $600 to $1000.00 range.
Any experience with the above?
Thanks again.,

I ended up with an SVS 20-39PC+ just before Axiom brought out their high end models. I went for the SVS because I was planning to move into a larger HT area in the future and figured that was the best "bass for the buck" -- a rock solid sub with a good 12" driver and 525 honest watts. I am very happy with the SVS (it is definite overkill for my current room) but would probably be equally happy with the Hsu or the Axiom products as well. If I had to replace the SVS I would probably try the Axiom -- I believe I can overdrive the SVS if I get carried away with the volume control on a few movies, and it would be nice to have a more refined response than that loud "GRUNK". Then again, it is also possible that my house is making the "GRUNK" noise rather than the SVS, I don't have time to really investigate these things any more

I have heard the Hsu STF-2 and thought it was excellent -- it would probably still be my first choice in that range. It hardly matters these days, though... Hsu and SVS have set an incredible price-performance point in the market, and Axiom seems to have matched them with the high end products. In the lower price range Hsu has a definite price/performance advantage since they manufacture in China, vs. North America for Axiom and SVS. Not sure where the Outlaw is mfg'ed, but my first guess would be the same factory as the Hsu

You can't go wrong with any of them, really.

thanks Bridgman interesting stuff.

>>This Denon also has another interestins setting in that you can run both the mains and the sub at the same time- I might just try that as well.

If you can only set a single crossover frequency I would stay with 80 Hz other than for experimentation -- if you cross over the center and surrounds at 60 you are going to get a bit of a "hole" between the center/surrounds and the sub.

The "run them both at the same time" setting sounds like your best bet... also see if you can route the LF from the center and surrounds to your mains AND sub. It may just be Yamaha receivers which have that option...

If you can route all your LF to mains and sub, then you can start to play with the crossover on the sub as well, setting it in the 40 Hz range. That way the M80s carry all the bass down to where they roll off (a bit below 40 Hz) and the sub starts to work below 40.

>>In the lower price range Hsu has a definite price/performance advantage since they manufacture in China, vs. North America for Axiom and SVS

Interesting... looks like the new cabinets for the SVS 2 driver units (except for the smaller PB-ISD/2) come from the same factory in China where the Rockets are made. Oh well...

It's kind of frightening to think that you can make large empty wooden boxes in China, ship them to North America and STILL end up less expensive than building them here ;(