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Inevitably this is the problem with posting graphs and why I really do not like doing it.

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I find it to work the exact opposite. If they were never posted, and this issue were not brought up, I would not have learned all of this nor have seen a newer anechoic response for the speakers. More information IMO is a good thing even if it brings out trolls such as this person from AVSforum.

There is this cadre of trolls over at AVS, who seem to have agendas that are less than legit. They are either employed in, or are a supporter of, the B&M side of our hobby. One guy, who is apparently a recording engineer in Toronto, seeks out any negative he can find about Internet direct companies, and then starts a thread deploring how terrible this graph, or those specs are. Of course the thread, inevitably, ends up in a train wreck of insults and get locked or deleted by the mods. He just went after SVS in this thread. Both Tom and Ron of SVS got involved, and the thread only lasted 2 pages before the mod locked it down, deleting some of the worst posts.

He got on a kick with The Rocket 750, and started the same thread on, at least, 3 different forums. On one forum, the mod chastised him, and quickly deleted the thread. A thread was started about the whole issue on av123, and he actually came over there, joined up, and tried to defend his position. He ended up spewing the vilest profanity I've read anywhere on the internet. He's been banned so many times, from virtually every forum worth reading, that it's difficult to keep track of him. He doesn't care. He just adopts a new name and starts right in again.

Another of these guys, is a B&M dealer (as are several of them), who must be feeling the pinch from the success of internet vendors. He doesn't start that many threads, but he is quick to join in and add to the attacks. He too has been banned a number of times, and has had many incarnations. Interestingly, these two guys loathe each other.

It is these guys, and their ilk, to whom I don't want to abandon the forums.

As with all trolls, attention = power.

Still i find it hard to believe. That these people can post such things and not be held accountable. I mean such as the post we were dicussing that is damaging to a persons business. You did that to major corparation you would have a team of lawyers breathing down your neck. But all that happens is thread gets closed. Then the same jokers start another one all over again.

No such thing as bad publicity.

How about Rafael Palmeiro? I'd consider what he is going through now to be bad pub for his Hall of Fame chances.

I have to admit, every time I see the title of this thread my first thought is "sure, what kind of ammo d'ya need ?" :

We'll see. HOF may seem less doable now, but what about book deals? movie career? endorsement deals for supplements?

One of my dear female colleagues reminded me that Palmiero was, at one time, shilling Viagra. Maybe that's his juice.

Hey Tom! I remember seeing one of those ads. Seemed a little embarassing for him. I guess the money must have been right.