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Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107029 08/08/05 06:11 AM
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Dear all:
I got a pair of Twin Axiom 80 last month, my friend told me it was less soft and less smooth then Axiom 80. And the price is much lower than Axiom 80. Anybody knew what was the reasonable price for Twin Axiom 80 ? (One unit is a bit dusty).

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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107030 08/08/05 08:17 AM
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Not sure I understand. What is the difference between "Twin Axiom 80" and "Axiom 80" ? I haven't heard of "Twin Axiom 80" -- it sounds like a different speaker rather than just more than one M80...

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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
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here is picture:

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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107032 08/08/05 10:16 AM
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The M80ti referred to in this board is a complete speaker manufactured by Axiom in Canada. http://www.axiomaudio.com/m80ti_main.html

I think that you are talking about something else.


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107033 08/08/05 10:20 AM
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What you have is two drivers (which you referred to as "speakers") called the TwinAxiom 8. TwinAxiom 8 is merely the name given these drivers by the British manufacturer, Goodmans Loudspeakers, Ltd. They made drivers primarily for car audio, and TVs. Goodmans, and it's products, has no connection to the company known as Axiom Home Theaters.

This is a TwinAxiom 8 driver manufactured by Goodman Loudspeakers, Ltd.




This is an Axiom M80ti speaker, manufactured by Axiom Home Theaters. As you can see, it has 6 drivers.



Unfortunately, Goodman Loudspeakers, Ltd. is now out of business.

"Goodmans Loudspeakers Limited

Founded in 1991 when the Tannoy Goodmans Industries Plc. group decided to make the OEM part of their business a separate entity and to withdraw the use of the Goodmans trademark from the consumer sector (which also resulted in the consumer trademark rights being sold or licensed to Alba). The GLL company was based in Havant in Hampshire, UK and initially made a fairly generic range of loudspeaker drivers with focus on supplying the then burgeoning TV market (the UK was for a time in the 80s and 90's one of the largest manufacturer of TV's in the world due to a number of Asian companies that opened up assembly lines there in order to gain a manufacturing base inside the EU) but during the 90's increasingly focused on the lucrative automotive loudspeaker sector and in the latter half of the 90's the company was one of the main supplier of drivers to General Motors Europe, Volkswagen, Peugeot, BMW and Honda, the drivers from the company being ideally suited for this purpose being units made almost entirely out of synthetic materials. In order to refocus on the auto market and gain a lower cost manufacturing base the company leased the manufacturing plants of Videoton in Hungary in 1999 and formed a strategic alliance with the Malaysian company Foremost Audio the year after and in order to be able to supply the South American sector they formed an alliance with the Brazilian company Thomas KL which was prior to that primarily a supplier of after-market solutions, they had also increased the portion of bought in Asian parts from companies such as Sound Source to drive costs down.


GLL had been quite profitable during the 1990's unlike some other parts of the TGI group but in 2001 the competition from cheap Chinese imports suddenly and quite dramatically turned the fortunes of the company around and it posted it's first yearly loss, TGI was acquired by the Danish company TC Group in 2002 and they decided to actually take the company forward in a similar fashion to the rest of the group with emphasis on using high tech solutions and image, plans were indeed made for OEM DSP based amplifier solutions partly based on technology from the TC Group which would have been the company's first foray into the auto electronics market. There was also a notable image change with a new logo that emphasised that the company was by now a primarily a car audio manufacturer and the reintroduction of the Goodmans name but the company had been using the GLL brand prior to that with it's logo that depicted a home hi-fi loudspeaker. In 2002 GLL also opened a new manufacturing plant in Monterrey in Mexico and a technical centre in Detroit, Michigan, USA with a view to supplying the North American car manufacturers (although I gather that in the end the Mexican plant only suplied VW Mexico). The new strategy was to a degree a success with the company becoming the favoured supplier to a number of car manufacturers that recognised their products as technically superior and in addition to their traditional European customers the company had major design wins in the USA, but it was also a double edged sword since GLL had to match or at the least be fairly close in price to their competitor and at this time the market was bombarded with cheap Chinese speakers, so GLL in effect had to supply a technically more advanced and more expensive solution on the same price resulting in further and growing losses, additionally it had been costly to move manufacturing outside of the UK, more costly than originally thought and with less benefits than expected and to add insult to injury it also proved more expensive to shut down production in the UK than was expected, just the employee termination liabilities would come to more than 1,4 million £. As the prospects for the company going into the black in the near future being bleak the TC Group decided to exit the car audio market altogether and to sell GLL, attempts to sell it as a going concern failed so it went into administration on the 10th of March 2004. Note that the homepage will probably only be up until the administration process has finished.






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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107034 08/08/05 10:28 AM
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And what a sweet speaker it is!


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107035 08/08/05 10:29 AM
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Oh you're just biased!


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107036 08/08/05 10:33 AM
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Hey Jack, actually this speaker is also very sweet....see there, no bias here!



Unfortunately these are the only Axiom speakers I've listened as far as mains and bookshelves.


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107037 08/08/05 10:49 AM
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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
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Sorry Morris, but as the others have mentioned, those are not manufactured by AxiomAudio.


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107039 08/14/05 04:42 AM
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leave it to jack to have ALL the answers!!!

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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
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Well, he's been around long enough...


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107041 08/14/05 12:30 PM
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I dont get no respect!






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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107042 08/14/05 06:22 PM
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Speaking of missing someone, does anyone know what happened to bren?

Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107043 08/14/05 09:06 PM
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Pure specualtion, but I suspect he's busy with work.


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Re: Question about Twin Axiom 80
#107044 08/15/05 02:59 AM
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yep, he will pop up one of these days, he always does when you least expect it


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