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Re: Speaking of subs...
#110179 09/11/05 07:08 AM
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>>Now why didn't someone point that out to me before? I am quite happy with my EP500, but this may have been grounds to have gotten the EP600 instead

Fear not... I actually got to see an EP600 today and it turns out I was wrong... the electronics are at ground level on an EP600 just like a 500.

Be happy !


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Re: Speaking of subs...
#110180 09/11/05 08:00 AM
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Actually with the bright white mark on the dial along with the red/green glow of the light on the back of the sub bouncing off of the wall close to the sub I do not have any problem seeing the mark in the dark. Cool idea though!

On another note... and as mentioned by Montclair in another post regarding the Denon 2910 (just hooked mine up today and played with it) universal player and the lack of bass management on the DVD-A and SACD side I do believe an Outlaw ICBM is the way to go.
The only question I have regarding the ICBM is whether or not the cost of the component ($250) would justify bass management just for DVD-As and SACDs since my collection of these consist of one SACD and two DVD-A's that I just bought today to try out in the new player.





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Re: Speaking of subs...
#110181 09/13/05 05:08 PM
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"Fear not... I actually got to see an EP600 today and it turns out I was wrong... the electronics are at ground level on an EP600 just like a 500."

Thanks for the info bridgman. But what about using the EP600 upside down?


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Re: Speaking of subs...
#110182 09/13/05 10:24 PM
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The air blowing out of the port would make it fall over...


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Re: Speaking of subs...
#110183 09/14/05 02:39 AM
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Did a little calculating......CG about 65% "up" when inverted....airflow about 75ft/sec.....on an average day in Canada with cold, dense, high humidity air, the corrected thrust level from the port acting upon a 103lb speaker in the inverted orientation if operating 180 degrees out of phase with the woofer cone giving an accumulating force on the cabinet(without grille)and if the cabinet is oriented(aimed) >7degrees "up" creating a slightly unstable.......

Re: Speaking of subs...
#110184 09/14/05 06:14 AM
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That air must be moving pretty fast! The 600 has a bit of mass to it, and F=ma right?

I liked your post F107plus5. I hope the sudden stop wasn't from the 600 falling over on you? Guess you found the right conditions to make it tip. I hope all is okay.

I guess the best and safest scenerio is to wait for the future Axiom electronics to allow us to remote control all of our sub adjustments and provide auto room EQ. One day.


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Re: Speaking of subs...
#110185 09/14/05 11:38 AM
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Yup....F=MA alright, and Newton tells me that an inverted 600 falling over from where I keep my sub, would most likely take out my fireplace

But alas, it's all theory, as my sub is a bit smaller and sits very stabily low to the floor.

But I like your idea of Axiom electronics controlling our subs!!

Lets see now....if we could just use a laptop to plug "our" sub driver parameters into the Axiom amp....


(I use an external plate amp to drive my sub, so it would be EASY!!!...just swap amps!)








Re: Speaking of subs...
#110186 09/14/05 12:18 PM
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Wouldn't it be a lot more simple if you just positioned the sub in this manner...



...sure would save a few brains cells from getting destroyed during all of that calculating. 'Ones mind is a terrible thing to lose'.



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#110187 09/14/05 01:09 PM
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Isn't that about the prettiest thing ya ever saw!?

My youngest Grandaughter saw thar pic just before I took her to school, and She thought it looks like a "Bandaid"

But WE know better

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#110188 09/14/05 10:28 PM
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It sure doesn't sound like a band-aid (not that I have heard the 600). But I do see the visual similarity.


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