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#110930 - 09/17/05 11:52 AM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5433
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
>>But I figured that because of the M2s are more forward sounding than the M3 they would work better in my room. No??

In a typical listening room, at moderate volumes, I would still go with M2 over M3 with a sub. There are a few reasons I would think about M3s for your room :

1. Your room looks to be kind of bright, with exposed walls and lots of glass. The M3 will counter that a bit...

2. I don't remember how big your room is, but if it is at least medium sized you might find the M2s start to gently hit their volume limits on some music and movies while the M3s can go a few dB louder and be more satisfying as a result.

3. I still think I can hear some kind of artifact when listening to certain music with a sub; again unproven but I do prefer listing to some music with full range speakers rather than sat/sub -- going with M3s would let you experiment with that and see what you prefer. Note this is the smallest of the considerations...

I was wondering about the M2 vs. M3 sound and eventually borrowed a pair of M3s to compare. Link to the thread below, but the executive summary was that the M2s did sound more forward but the difference was very small; the best analogy we could come up with was that M2/22/60 sound like the singer is about a foot in front of the speakers; M50s sound like the singer is a foot further away; M3s and M40s sound like the singer is perhaps a foot behind the speakers, ie two feet less "forward" than the M2/M22/M60. Bottom line is that the M2 is definitely "in your face" more than the M3 but you only really notice the difference on specific albums, particularly albums with female vocalists and acoustic instruments. Take all this with a grain of salt, of course.

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ST&Number=86248&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1


Edited by bridgman (09/17/05 11:58 AM)

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#110931 - 09/17/05 01:29 PM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
Ken.C Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17790
Loc: NoVA
Good point-- the 50s do generally sound like the singer is in the plane of the speakers. Then again, it sounds pretty much like that in Stereo or in DTS Neo:6. DPL2 Music on the other hand, sounds like they just got locked in the other room... But that's a different conversation. I've never heard the M2s or the M3s, but the M22s are very very nice.
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#110932 - 09/17/05 11:48 PM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
thyname Offline
aficionado

Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 552
Loc: Oakton, VA
I didn't know we had a soccer fan here (apart from myself)!!!
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#110933 - 09/18/05 04:42 AM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
BrenR Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 3602
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
Yup, I bleed Bayern red.

Bren R.

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#110934 - 09/18/05 10:59 AM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
salamero Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 4
Loc: Miami
I'm a huge soccer fan!

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#110935 - 09/19/05 03:24 PM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
500 Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 62
LIVERPOOL!!!!!!!!!!!

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#110936 - 09/19/05 03:29 PM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
BrenR Offline
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Registered: 12/10/03
Posts: 3602
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
In reply to:

LIVERPOOL!!!!!!!!!!!



We said soccer... FA teams need not apply.

Bren R.

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#110937 - 09/19/05 03:32 PM Re: Axiom M2i's or Paradigm Atoms?
thyname Offline
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Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 552
Loc: Oakton, VA
I watch and enjoy both English Premier League and Italian Seria A. I am actually happy that I can watch them in TV here in the States. No need to mention that I don't miss European Champions' League (thank God ESPN2 is broadcasting live two games a week this year, compared to only one before!!!) and the World Cup.

Forza Inter!!!!! They will make it this year, I am very confident.
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