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Re: Putting Architectural Series speakers IN the w
#121868 12/30/05 08:38 PM
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The closest I have seen is Dennis (Tharkun)'s comments on a listening test he did between M2 and W2s up at Axiom. I think he ended up preferring the M2s but the difference was very small.


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Re: Putting Architectural Series speakers IN the w
#121869 12/30/05 09:25 PM
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When the pair of W3s arrived, I took them over to Lees (koiman) house and compared them to his pair of M3. To me they were so close it was diffacult to tell the differance. Once I installed them in the wall, the base was even more defined.
The blind test up at Axiom was very close between the two speakers, to me, both are good choices. In my opinion if you limited floor space, try the AS series, I doubt you will not be happy with them.


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D'oh !!

I forgot you had W3s...


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The W3s are great speakers, enough base that one can do without a sub. A pair would work great in the new bedroom John. (hint) (hint)

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Already thinking about it. The M40s may be sacrificed to displace a Bose system at the home of the nice folks who lent me the furniture you can see in the latest pics :

http://community.webshots.com/photo/489214861/530569819Lljsvf

Then again, if the M40s actually *fit* in the bedroom then we'll have to think about plan B. I really do like those M40s...

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Re: Putting Architectural Series speakers IN the w
#121873 12/31/05 05:28 PM
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Thanks guys for the info. I will soon be building out a small room for for music and home theater, and will be depending on this forum for a lot of info. As the room will be small, 13 X 15, 8' ceiling height, I have already decided on the M22 or W22 as the fronts, with the QS8's as surround, QS 4's appear to be adequate, but for a hundred more.... All will be powered by an HK 635.


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In reply to:

HERE IS THE ANSWER: Axiom rep also mentioned the ports, so flush-mounting is out.




With a little ingenuinity, anything is possible.

While I would not recommend the following, here is how they could be flush mounted. This would require moderate to expert finishing skill to make it look good.
When building a wall, the area below the ports can also be recessed to allow the ports to breathe. This would result in what would appear as a pocket in the wall below each speaker. If not a fixed screen, then for visual presentation the speakers should not be recessed past the halfway point of the sides (quadrant of the semicircle). IF the screen is fixed, then the speakers could theoretically be fully recessed and the pocket made deeper. Care would have to be taken to seal the speaker to the wall to minimize or eliminate energy loss through the back of the wall.
It really complicates the installation but it could be done. Manufacturers of ported inwall speakers place the ports on the front of the cabinet but then again, these are not inwall speakers (just simply wall speakers). I still prefer the design of the Axiom AS W speakers as they are built to minimize sacrificing sound quality.

It is a shame that you have to install these behind a screen as they are quite attractive speakers. At least that is what my wife tells me. Apparently I have little sense of fashion and what "looks good".


HT on hold until further notice...
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I'll tell you what "looks good," since I don't have any pics, yet: my new 7.1 surround system with 7" screen. Yeah, I said it. 7 inches. It is a major downgrade from the 110" Stewart Firehawk screen I was planning on. But this screen also includes a 2006 Matador Red Lexus GS430 and Mark Levinson 14 speaker surround sound system! It was the last day of 2005, and they gave me a great deal on a demo model with 5600 miles. Unfortunately, this blows my HT budget to pieces. I've really been working hard these past few months to finalize the plans for my movie room, and was planning to begin building this month. Perhaps I can still swing part of it, and build it over a longer timeframe... I haven't figured out exactly what this does to my overall budget, yet.
On a funny note, I spent much of yesterday playing with my new "toy." The first disc I put in was "Return of The King." I've got to say, that new ML sound system is GREAT with that movie. Listening to the radio, it sounded like a "normal" car stereo. But I've never heard a car with DTS EX before. Sweet! I had the car off most of the time, running all those electronic goodies off the battery. Well, at about midnight, I snuck out to the garage to play some more, and the stereo gave out. I tried to fire up the engine but the starter only "clicked." It turns out that this car requires 85% battery to start the engine. If it dips to 84%, it just will not start! So, with my wife asleep, I used her car to jump mine... Other than that, I'm loving my new HT... err, I mean, car.

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#121876 01/03/06 02:13 AM
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No such thing as DTS EX... It only has Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS Digital 5.1 with a 7.1 speaker arrangement.
And sorry for derailing the topic at hand.

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