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Re: Onkyo
#124090 01/14/06 06:32 PM
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Hey bug, there was no intent to draw folks in. LOL!!!

But, here are my considerations:

1. No DVI/ HDMI connections. These are cost drivers and I have yet to figure out why anyone (exception of projector users who don't want a zillion cables run to their projector) would really want to do their video switching in their audio gear.

2.No video upconversion/ scaling, which is again a cost driver. Again, I can't figure out why anyone would want to do video stuff in their audio gear. Let the video gear do the video stuff.

3. Has 5 optical (audio) inputs.

4. Has lip sync compensation.

5. Has all the features that I want in a pre/pro.

6. Can buy it for about $600. That's a new price, not a refurb.

Where else can you find a pre/pro with all of these features for $600? And, if I am going to get seperate amps for the front/ center, the amplifier/ power supply is not an issue.

I would enjoy more discussion on these subjects. I have been looking at these trades for over a year now. I haven't quite made up my mind, but, I am getting close.


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Re: Onkyo
#124091 01/14/06 10:19 PM
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I've figured out that you research to the hilt. That's a good thing.

It looks to me that it has what you need and is the right price, especially if you will be using it as a pre/pro.

Usually where there is Onkyo, Integra is close by. The Integra DTR-5.6 is very similar, but is usually only available at your local HiFi dealer. If there is a dealer close, you might find the 5.6 available at close to the same price.

Re: Onkyo
#124092 01/15/06 01:07 AM
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What do you think is better about the Integra? Interesting point, in the features section of that receiver, it indicates no amplifier performance for 4 ohms. In the other menus, it does. Go Figure??

I like to understand what I am buying. That's why I do a lot of looking and reading. I can't say that I always make the correct decision, but I try.


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Re: Onkyo
#124093 01/15/06 02:07 AM
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Oops!

I linked to the wrong model. S/B DTR-6.6

There is an error on the Onkyo "features" page. The list is out of order. the 6 ohm and 4 ohm lines should follow "surround back 100W".

Check the specifications page on both and you see that they are identical. No 4 ohm power listed.

My only point about the 6.6 is that it has a few more features and "might be bought" from a local dealer for the same price as the 703.

The fronts have a different look. The Integra has crossovers for each channel. You'd have to print the spec sheets on both to find the differences. When I looked at them side by side, I liked the Integra a little better.

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#124094 01/18/06 03:18 AM
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Anyone else have a few comments/ experience that they would like to share?


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Re: Onkyo
#124095 01/18/06 05:02 AM
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Nothing especially helpful, Bernard, but if you like all the features, then the 703 should serve you well, regardless of whether you use the internal or external amps. Maybe you didn't list all the features important to you, but the ones listed could also be met at that price with the Denon 985(2805)and Yamaha 2500.


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Re: Onkyo
#124096 01/18/06 12:29 PM
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John: I think some of the problems that I am having in selecting a new receiver is that their specifications all basically read the same and there isn't anything specific that I want them to do that sets one apart from the other.

I am convinced that I don't want or need HDMI/ DVI switching and video scaling. I would, however, like at least 4 optical (audio) inputs. I don't know if I want it THX certified. "Real" power isn't an issue since I plan to use it as a pre/ pro.

I have not determined any significant quality or customer service difference in the majority of the different brands. Price is not a major swing factor for what I am looking for.

I am personally convinced that most people just don't know what they are talking about when they refer to one brand or another as warm, bright, etc. I think that is just so much BS!

So, I am in somewhat of a quandry. What should my selection be based on?

Anyone have any opinions????


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Re: Onkyo
#124097 01/18/06 01:05 PM
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All things being equal...?

....reliability?

Maybe we need another poll.








I'll vote for Onkyo.....three units; no problems.

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#124098 01/18/06 08:41 PM
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These should be looked at when you're studying amps.

Knowing you're buying an amp later should make it easier, but there are too many choices. Maybe you can buy one based on your choice of country; China, Korea or Japan.

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#124099 01/18/06 11:22 PM
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bug: LOL! Selection by country is a new one on me. Maybe the bottom line for receiver selection is that it really doesn't make a difference.

I had looked at those ATI amps and I thought that they were a little pricey for what you get. After I get the new receiver, I will have to see how things sound and then decide how many channels and what power level I think that I want/ need. Right now, the top candidates are Outlaw and Rotel, but you never know. There is even the possibility that Axiom may be in the running.


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