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Posting this hear for more input with specific questions.

The recent demise of my HK 7200 will require a minimum of ten days to repair and a minimum of three weeks if it needs parts. I can’t wait that long (as I’m sure some of you can emphasis with). I’d like to order something today so I can have it before the weekend (superbowl) and the pending fed-x arrival of my new speakers this week.

So it looks like an opportune time to upgrade. I’ve decided to peddle the 7200 after it’s repaired.

Here’s what I’m looking at.

Denon 3806 that I can get locally (new authorized dealer). They want $1289.
HK 7300 from OneCall for $1200 + $100 for shipping. (or a refurb from HK for $900 + $100 shipping)
Rotel 1056 for five channel and then buy a 200X2 for the mains this fall. The 1056 is $1300 locally. The 200X2 that I’d have to buy later goes for $1000 locally.
Outlaw 1070 for $900 + shipping with the addition of mono blocks later for the M80 mains at $650 for the pair.
NAD 773. Now thanks to Rick, he found a new NAD 773 for $1500.

This system is used 100% of the time for HT. I have a separate stereo system with Rotel and M80’s.

$1500 is my upper limit.

Need it to drive M80’s and a parallel M22’s when I move it to the HT room when complete this fall. For the next few months, it’ll just drive a five channel set up consisting of M22’s for mains, two M3’s for a center (parallel), two QS8’s and the EP500.

I really like the HK’s X-over flexibility. Does the 3806 have this feature? Can’t quite tell when looking at it’s spec sheet on-line.
I’m not too sure if video upscalling is something I want the AVR to do, but it may prove to be a benefit as HDTV is not available hear. Both cable and satellite signals suck. They are both fuzzy. In comparison, DVD viewing is substantially better than satellite or cable.

I’m a little apprehensive to buy HK again, but the repair shop told me that I’m the first one to call for repair, so I reckon that’s a good sign. I’m willing to give HK another try.

I have no experience with Denon or Outlaw.

Thanks in advance. Y’all always tend to point out things that I usually miss.


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I have no experience with Denon or Outlaw




This would be a great opportunity for you to setup and review some outlaw products for us. Order some Outlaws, send the H/K, return the Outlaws if undesired. Return freight would be a small fee for use of new equipment.

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I’m not too sure if video upscalling is something...




Most don't upscale. They upconvert composite and s-video to component and/or HDMI. No increase in resolution.

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The sure make the video processing sound good in their product literature. So by your response, you don’t think that my satellite image would be improved?

If I go with Outlaw, I’d be happy to post my opinion. It wouldn’t be much of a review though. I have very little experience with audio/video. I don’t even know if I prefer detailed over laid back speakers. The only real ‘high fi’ speakers I’ve ever owned are my M80’s. I love them, but I haven’t heard many others to compare their sound to other than store speakers (b&w / paradigm).


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No one locally has the Nad?


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No Rick, no local NAD vendors. And between getting soaked for $310 in shipping from one vendor with a decent price put it over my limit. And you know the rest of the NAD story....but I sure appreciate you giving me some options.

I decided to give HK one more try. Ordered the 7300 from OneCall. Bought an extended warrantee this time too.

I called the HK tech department and they seam to think that the composite or S video signal from the satellite receiver will be improved via the on board faroudia DCDi up conversion to component output. Time will tell. One big plus with HK is I already know how to set them up, and I absolutely hate reading instructions........

I looked at the Outlaw pretty hard, but vanity set in. It’s just down right ugly. Plus, I’d have to buy the mono blocks later.

The Denon looked pretty good, but the tightass in me refuses to pay MSRP.

I'll have a 'serviced' HK 7200 for sale before long if anyone is interested. PM me with an offer. I'll give ya a hell of a deal.

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On the bright side there won't be a learning curve. You could always put the other AVR on audiogon if need be.


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i have owned an HK510 previously. Now a very happy Yamaha rxv2600. It's an audioholics product of the year.
and it DOES upconvert all incoming signals to 1080i via HDMI. (in fact, the ONLY receiver to date that does this, i think)

it also sounds great and is well built. i would not buy HK again. QC not up to par. imo.

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I do not mean to imply that you are not what you appear to be, freeflap, but does anyone notice a bunch of newbies popping up, plugging a particular product, panning another without foundation, and leaving? Methinks we may be having some astroturfing going on.


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I have to agree with you about the Outlaw looks. Their specs are pretty impressive but their looks are awful. Don't know why they couldn't have done a better job on the appearance?????


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Sorry, Ken. But, I'm not a newbie. My apologies to all the Denon fans out there, but I just gotta move on. The cake was the wrong flavor.

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i understand your concern. however, i DO have reason to not recommend the HK. I OWNED one for 6 years. I had to replace the cap. in it that caused all channel HUM. read the service manual. it was an easy fix, but brought to light problems with HK's QC.

Also, i've owned an NAD 7175pe from my college days 1986. It still works great today in my office, but I would be hesitent to rec that either given the fact that their ownership has changed and doesn't "seem" to be as well made ( i haven't listened to them recently so this is just my opinion, not my impression of them first hand)

anyway, you dont have to believe me. i just wanted the original poster to think about the yam 2600. it was given the audioholics poy. and for good reason.

the denons are good too, but do not upcode the video. as i stated, this is currently the only receiver which can do this as far as i know (your tv needs hdmi to take advantage of it)





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LB, I wasn't talking about your post. I know you're not a newbie!

Freeflap, I apologize for implicating you in that. Just been a rash of it lately... So what kind of setup do you have? Pictures?


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Take a look at the new Pioneer Elites - you get a lot of functionality for your money (IMO). I believe the VSX-74 goes for around $1500, which is at your level.

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that's ok.

i currently have:
Yamaha 2600 which i am very happy with. i use it as a prepro.
my amp is an ATI 2007. also amazing product.
my front speakers are Onix Ref 1.8
center: Onix ref 100 center and
rears: ref 1.0 I will soon add ref 3 for my fronts.

TV is mitsubishi 65411 65" crt rear proj. Great tv, but alas, no HDMI input. i also have 2 DIY titanic 12" subs, one ported, the other sealed. i did this to get best of both worlds: sealed fast for music and ported deep for movies. the pair work very well and is flat to ~25 hz and down 4-5 db at 20 hz. i measured this using the radioshack spl meter.

If you check the www.av123.com forum, i have pics of my setup in the user gallery. same username. thx

i am here on axiom's site shopping for subs. i am very interested in the ep600 or ep500. I like the subs that my father in law and I built, but want deeper extension and have read glowing reviews of the axioms. i was most impressed by craigsubs comparison to the svs ultra2 twins.



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I like the mixed subs! I currently use a sealed 12" sub (probably the only one on the boards) and kind of favor the sealed design intellectually. On the other hand, I've been extremely impressed with the various other member's subs I've heard, including (and especially!) the EP500 and 600.


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I had considered Yamaha, but the amps had me a little worried. I’ll be driving a set of M80’s (4 ohm) and a set of M22’s in parallel for the center channel which would be what….? Another 4 ohm load I think. I was very close to getting the 4600, but for the money, felt the hk 7300 was the best bang for the buck. I have had no problems with the 7200 until now and the damn thing just has sooooo much power for the 80’s, that I just couldn’t go with anything with less current. – I like things loud. The 7200 damn near keeps up with my Rotel 200X2.

So, the 7300 should be here Friday. If this one craters, I’m gunna shove it somewhere dark and stinky in the nearest HK sales rep that I can find. The 7300 does upscale. Takes in 480i and outputs 480P via component (no dvi). The soon to be released HK 740 converts to 1080 (both dvi/hdmi).


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I followed someone's advice on here (I have read so many posts in the past week that I don't remember who) and downloaded the manual for the 2600. I looked at the areas in the Table of contents to answer some questions about crossover but did not see the answer. Can you set independant crossovers for each speaker? In otherwords could I set the surrounds at 80 but the fronts at 60? Also in reading the manual, it said that I should set the receiver for either 6 ohm or 8 ohm speakers up front. How would I handle have M60 8 ohm fronts and QS8 6 ohms on the rear? Not that I have them yet, but I have great plans.


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i hope you enjoy it. actually the yam 4600 DOES NOT upcode the video like the 2600 does, so i would recommend the lower model over the upper one. i think that the 2600 has stolen a lot of sales away from the upper yam model. the one feature that the higher model has is a built in HD-FM tuner. not sure its worth the extra cost.

To be honest, i wanted the Yam for its preamp / processor features, not the amps. If you read audioholics review, he thought the amp section was fine, but was more impressed with the receiver's preamp section and that this y2600 paired with a separate amp was a killer combo.

yes, the HK has great current output, but i understand that the axioms are an easy load to drive, not like electrostatics, and that any of these receivers would do well with them.





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when I sealed one of the ports, (ala SVS with a foam plug) i measured a drop in output at 30 hz from the sealed sub of about 3 db. but the music aspect became a little tigher and cleaner.

i've read that this is a basic advantage of the sealed (faster) sub (music) and that porting (deeper) is better for movies. so I thought to use both and get the best of both worlds. However, the really DEEP bass i loved is now missing and that's why i would consider the EP600. seems the secret is in the DSP amp which controls the piston action of the driver to keep it linear and clean.



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Arg, no the 2600 doesn't set separate crossovers for separate speaker groups; only some HK and Onkyo models have that feature.


As to the impedance setting on the 2600(or any receiver), set it at 8 ohms regardless of whether the specified inpedance of the speakers is 8,6 or 4 ohms. The switch or setting on various units for a lower impedance reduces the maximum voltage available from the rails in the power supply section. Because of Ohm's Law, when less voltage, which is the key factor in producing power, is available, less current is available(I=E/R; current equals voltage divided by resistance or impedance)and less power is available(P=VxI; power equals voltage times current). Although using a lower impedance setting lessens the chance of a unit starting to overheat and having its protective circuits shut it down, this is rarely a problem, even with 4 ohm speakers and should only be used as a last resort. Manufacturers put such suggestions in their manuals for liability reasons with units that don't have UL certification at less than 8 ohms without it, but regardless of that the 8 ohm setting should be used to preserve the maximum power capability.



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Thanks, John. I knew I'd learn something if I just started asking questions.


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Hey John,

That Boston Acoustics AVR I was looking at has independent X-overs for all speakers. It’s really quite impressive on paper. If it had a couple more years under it’s belt, I’d have bought it. The Denon 3806 does too. Not as many choices, but you can set the channels up differently. At least that’s the way I took the instructions on both while I was looking. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


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The Denon 3806 does too




The "advanced setup" page 79 shows directions for setting individual channels including surround A/B and LFE.

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What is the general opinion of the group? A lot of the advice on this forum says that at a given price point, most receivers from the main brands are close as far as performance - so we should go with the one that has the features that we desire. So, I am sort of developing a list of features that actually impact the performance of the receiver. Having said that, the independant crossover seems like a nice feature to have - but I don't know enough to know if it makes much of a difference. I was posting in another thread about the upscaling feature - it seems that the upscaling offered in today's receivers is early generation and may not be as good as can be had in the better video equipment.


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Boston Acoustics AVR




The BA AVR7120 is the same as Sherwood R-965.

The Outlaw 990 is based on the Sherwood P-965 with modifications.

Someone will tell us who makes these private label models.

The BA AVR might not be bad.

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upscaling offered in today's receivers




Receivers don't upscale (change resolution). They upconvert lower connections (composite=s-video) to component/hdmi. The quality of the signal doesn't change.

Dvd players and tvs upscale 480 to 720 or 1080.

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Copy and paste from HK. This is off the new 740 description.

Digital audio meets digital video. Ready for the future, the AVR 740’s DCDi® by Faroudja video processing flawlessly upscales all incoming video to 720p or 1080i high definition and outputs it through an HDMI™ jack.

this is off the 7300 owner's manual.

DCDi™ by Faroudja® video processing and
upscaling customize the video output to
match your display for the highest video
quality, regardless of the input source. All
video parameters are adjustable separately
for each video input.

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I stand corrected. 2 so far that meet the upscale criteria. Any others?

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So........Looking for opinions - do we think the upscaling would be worth the bang for the buck? What about the variable crossovers - if I am not mistaken, some of the threads that I have read indicate that the H&K receivers do have variables. Are they worth pursuing?


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The AVR 740 (just available this month) looks like a winner for HK. For $3499 msrp. Hope HK will have a manual to download soon.

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i think Freeflap was correct in his earlier statement about the Yamaha having upscaling ability on the RX-V2600 model stating, "Video composite, s-video and component signals are up-converted to HDMI output, with a Time Base Corrector (TBC) in the Analog Devices high-performance encoder and decoder. In addition, the RXV2600 also uses an Oplus™ high-performance de-interlacer for the best quality progressive video images (480i to 480p). It also up-scales 480i signals to 1080i/720p high definition resolution. The de-interlacing and up-scaling technologies used in the RXV2600 are superior to those of any other receiver in its class."

Funny, Denon looks like they might, with the 4306 & 4806 stating, "analog-to-HDMI video conversion, with video scaling to streamline video switching and to provide for maximum content quality for every source in your system," but later saying, "output signal up-converted to HDMI retains the resolution of the input signal."

If all things are equal between the Yamaha & HK vid processing, Yamaha takes a huge lead in the $$$ department. You should be able to find a 2600 for around a grand $US.


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For a clarification... The 7300 has 480i to 480p video processing. 720 and 1080 signals are passed but not processed. Still a nice feature to get the 480p which looks better on my tv.

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Connectivity showing 2600's upscaling properties.

$1000 digital receiver.

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That’s the way I read the HK literature. The 7300 only scales to 480P from 480i, while the 740 will scale from 480i to 1080 (P/i?? I don’t know which). The 740 also has DVI and HDMI outputs, while the 7300 has none.

Seeing how the 7300 msrp is about $2300 US and can be bought for $1200 US, hopefully the 740 will also be around $1500 US on the street. Interestingly though, the 7300 still has much more robust amps. I see a 7400 coming from HK pretty soon. And If I’m lucky, HK will have an upgrade for the 7300 that will match the new 740’s video processing. –wishful thinking on my part.

The Yamaha certainly looks like an attractive AVR, but the jury is still out on whether or not it can drive a 4 ohm load without issue. I wasn’t willing to experiment in this department. One could always run their mains with the Yamaha’s pre outs into another amp I reckon, but that’s additional costs.


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Touching on some of the points mentioned: as Mike and Doug pointed out, the 3806 is another of the receivers that can set separate crossovers for separate speaker groups; the jury should be in that current Yamaha receivers do fine in most situations at 4 ohms, as tests indicate 4 ohm power in the 150-200 watt range; whether any player, receiver or separate unit does deinterlacing and/or scaling may be meaningless if the deinterlacing/scaling that the HD TV set itself does(it has to)is good enough so that having the processing done instead at some earlier point doesn't result in visible improvement.


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yes, even the killer denon 5805 cannot do this. but you must have a hdmi tv to benefit.

plus, it has onscreen display using hdmi and 1080i, a nice but not necessary feature.



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sorry i cannot comment on the 4ohm test (i am using the y2600 as a prepro to my ATI2007), but most of the better quality receivers in the 1k price range can drive 4 ohms.

audioholics tested the older rxv2500 and found it did fine driving the RBH1266se which are 4ohm speakers. their final review on the RXV2600 isn't done yet.


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http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/2005productawards.php

right now, the upscaling is very nice, and IMO, more a deal than the variable xo (the unit does have variable xo's 40,60,80,100hz etc..., and does do the "large/small" selection.

I like the ability to upcode DVD's and non HD TV. also minimizes cable spaghetti with just the HDMI output from the receiver to the TV.

in 5-10 years when all video is 1080p, then no. not a big deal. but you'll have upgraded your receiver /preamp by then... :-) this is another reason i would NOT spend more than 1k on any receiver / prepro. The tech is changing very rapidly. none of these current options including my beloved Y2600 can handle 1080p. forcing an upgrade in a couple years anyway....

also, once you start hitting 2-3k, you should start looking at separates. better amps generally and more flexible re: upgrades, IMO

audio quality is exceptionally clean and detailed. a noticeable improvement over my 6 year old HK510 (yes, not fair to compare receivers 5 years apart in age)



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