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Re: Comments on this setup
#132292 03/20/06 09:00 PM
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Gena, the key word is "should." Just because it "should" doesn't means that it "does." And I was comparing the 7500 to the 7125, not the Yamaha (I was refering to loudness alone when I mentioned my old receiver).

You're right, there may be improvements made to the 7500 from the 7125 other than more power. However, the initial inquiry that started this thread was whether the 7500 sounded better with the M80v2's than the 7125. My experience, having had both amps in the house hooked up to the same M80v2's, was that the 7500 that I now own did indeed sound better than the 7125 that I used to own with those speakers. IMHO. Whether or not that makes sense scientifically, I can't say.

I also realize that "good sound" is a very subjective thing. As a friend of mine often says, "That's why they make chocolate and vanilla." What tastes better depends on who is doing the tasteing. How's that for being philisophical?

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Re: Comments on this setup
#132293 03/21/06 10:08 PM
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After all that, I think I will get the Outlaw 990/7500 to go with the M80's. It's only money, right? I think I'm looking for a little higher quality in my components these days, not to mention the ability to have the speakers played at a higher volume and still sounding crisp and full. With all the good reviews these components have gotten, paired with the outstanding M80's, I don't I could go wrong.


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Re: Comments on this setup
#132294 03/21/06 11:16 PM
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I think you owe it to yourself to look into ATI (whom many believe are)the manufacturers of Outlaw. The ATI stuff is a little more money but apparently made to higher specs. Stands to reason, if you make the same product why make the competition's product as good as your own? Another brand is Odyssey, which is very well reviewd on the net. They both have upgrade programs that are very attractive. If your interested I can provide links but I have to be at my home computer. Let me know.
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Re: Comments on this setup
#132295 03/22/06 12:14 AM
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In reply to:

apparently made to higher specs




If you look at the specs for the Outlaw 7500 and the ATI 2000, they are identical, right down to weight. You have to wonder what Outlaw gave up to get the price down, but if it was the electronics, then the specs wouldn't match up.

The ATI 2002 amp is the same cage and toroids as the 2007 amp. They add modules for channels, but not the toroids. Additional channels only take a share of the power of the toroids.

Re: Comments on this setup
#132296 03/22/06 12:28 AM
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I sometimes wonder if the reason that some music may sound "better" with a more powerful amp may have something to do with the peak power requirements?

Most of the posts that I have read don't really distinguish between peak power and average power. I suppose that may be because most posters are not engineers and don't really understand the difference, anyway.

Bottom Line: you could have extremely high peak power requirements to properly reproduce a sound track, yet the average power could be quite nominal.

Just something to think about.


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