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Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center question..
#135228 04/10/06 09:10 PM
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Humm, this thread makes me pause about what I should do about a center. I had resigned to get the VP150, but two M3s sounds like an interesting option. Can they run together as duel centers with an 8ohm receiver (RX-V2500 yammy)?

Humm, just took a long look at the specs. Seems like the best choice would be a pair of M22s not M3s. With duel M3s you actually lose a woofer driver. However with duel M22s you gain a woofer driver and improve your frequency response low end over the VP150.

Only $60 more too.

Thoughts from someone who knows what they're talking about because clearly I don't.

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Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center question..
#135229 04/10/06 09:35 PM
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If you run a pair of 8 ohm M3s in parallel you'll have an impedance of 4 ohms to the receiver...I'd make sure the Yammy can take a 4 ohm load. I have a VP100 and a 150 connected in parallel (3.43ohms) connected to an HK 635 receiver and have not experienced any problems.

*Seems* like I remember reading that the Yamaha receivers do not do too well with 4 ohm loads but I could be entirely out in left field with my notion.


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Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center questio
#135230 04/10/06 09:56 PM
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Is M22 magnetically shielded? It could be imporant if placed close to the TV screen.

Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center question..
#135231 04/10/06 10:24 PM
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This my seem like a dumb question,but how do you run 2 speakers in parallel?Do you just put the 2+s together and the -s together and connect them to the receiver?

Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center question..
#135232 04/10/06 10:46 PM
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I use the M3s because of the difference in frequency response. I feel like like have gained more more bass for the center channel on SD analog channels in particular. I reset my centers to large for TV because the mains never kick-in.

Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center question..
#135233 04/10/06 10:48 PM
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Two speakers wired to the same amp connection.

+ to +, - to -.

Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center questio
#135234 04/11/06 01:50 AM
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They are not as well shielded as the VPs. I did see distortion with them next to the screen.


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Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 question..
#135235 04/11/06 02:14 AM
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New, if you put the M60 on its side you're nullifying the greatest advantage that it would have. Vertical centers typically(have no experience with the VP150)have a wider and smoother horizontal dispersion than do horizontal centers using a MTM arrangement. This benefits both a listener sitting off the central axis and any listener because the reflected off-axis sound is smoother.


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Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 question..
#135236 04/11/06 02:41 AM
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I think (just my ignorant opinion) that a M60 on its side would be a mistake. The tweeter is a fair distance away from the woofer and I believe it would just sound funky. I’d vote for a pair of M3’s or 22’s. I’ve tried both and prefer the 22’s. The 3’s do have more bass, but this is an easy fix with the X-over. The 22’s blend extremely well with my 80’s which are supposed to be real close to the 60’s.

By going with a pair of bookshelves, you have to option to run them vertically under the screen, horizontally with the tweeter together, or the woofers together.

All that being said, I am very, very happy with my 22’s horizontally with the tweeters together. Looks like a big assed VP. But you will have to angle them to get them to point at your ears. I did this by ripping some MDF and building a shelf that holds them at the right angle. Took a whole thirty minute to bang it out.


Re: Hey guys, long time no see, M60 center question..
#135237 04/11/06 05:27 AM
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I've read my RX-V2500 yammy can do 4ohm if not pushed too hard. Considering it for the centers it might be okay, not sure.

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