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#138928 - 05/19/06 04:53 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
medic8r Offline
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Registered: 02/05/06
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Loc: Fredericksburg, Virginia
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the neck of the bottle comes across as a phallic symbol



Ah, yes. But to paraphrase the late great Sigmund Freud, sometimes a beer bottle is just a beer bottle.

I'm jumping in late, but agree that the Brokeback reference is not worth it and will only grow more tired over time.

Maybe you should subcontract the writing to BrenR or any of the other jokers around here!
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#138929 - 05/19/06 07:40 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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First off, the queers in that disgusting movie aren't cowboys. They heard sheep. Secondly, I doubt anyone would ever drink Killians again that feel as I did about that movie. I made it till the "tent scene" and couldn't find the remote quick enough. I was expecting some off color, too close kinda friendship stuff, but I sure in the hell wasn’t expecting to see gay pornography.

Nice photo though Mark.

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#138930 - 05/19/06 09:18 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 03/07/05
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Loc: Glendale, Arizona
"When the Irish get mad, they get Killian's Red"

Hmm, still inflammatory.

Mark, I appreciate all types of humor, but I think for the sake of a portfolio, you may want to look for the generic "PC" humor. It's tough, though, because it tends to be bland. I like things with personality--helps it stand out.

Nowadays, though, everyone reacts strongly to the smallest things.

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#138931 - 05/19/06 09:53 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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In reply to:

First off, the queers in that disgusting movie aren't cowboys.


Tell us how you really feel, Mike. You'd think with a couple queers in your own family you'd be a little more , I dunno, less homophobic?
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#138932 - 05/20/06 08:31 AM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 02/23/04
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Loc: Illinois.
And, I got grief for MY thread?

This one is much better.......(sarcasm)
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#138933 - 05/20/06 12:36 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Why in the heck do you think I'm homophobe?? It’s just gotta be a sickness that runs in the blood right? Did you see the movie btw??

But seriously, queer isn't a good word and I apologize if anyone found that offensive. I grew up with that term. It’s hard to keep track of all the politically correct slangs.

One thing's for certain Mark, the guys I hang around with wouldn't be caught dead with a beer that had homosexual connotations. I don't think were much different that a large % of the population either. Hell, there isn’t a one of them that will drink Zima either. Zima’s a “fag drink” to most of them.

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#138934 - 05/20/06 01:38 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Point taken and illustrated nicely.

Thanks for the input, Mike. I'm not trying to sell beer, I'm trying to sell my photography. The image is not an ad per se, I've just added the text to illustrate a final layout. The text was supposed to be tongue in…errr…cheek… that's all. I can clearly see that the subject is a bit touchy for some, and that I'm better off choosing different text in the final version.

Speaking of which, I've decided that when I reshoot it, I will add a saddle to the background along with the aforementioned spurs in the foreground.

It would have been easier had I thought of the cowboy theme from the beginning…. Or simply shot it on black Plexiglas! Or, maybe I should have gone for a Zima with leather and bondage props?

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#138935 - 05/20/06 04:10 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 1039
Loc: Tracy, California
Mike -
You apologise for using "queer" saying you find it diffacult to keep track of all the correct slangs. But then you go further and refer to Zima as a "fag drink".
I would like make a friendly suggestion to you, if you ever do decide to build that sports bar in in northern California, you may find a surprising percentage of your future customer base will be gay, homosexual, or what ever other label you feel like placing upon them. Just something to think about.
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#138936 - 05/20/06 10:15 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Yeah, I saw the movie and I actually enjoyed it. If you think that makes me less of a man, then I'm thankful I didn't learn the rules of manhood from the same places you did.
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#138937 - 05/21/06 02:16 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 07/23/04
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Loc: Up yonder
I’m not “labeling” anyone Dennis. But your point is well taken. The terms queer and fag have been around for decades and I didn’t come up with them. Even in the movie, the actors both said they weren’t queer – after they did the deed. The label “fag drink” isn’t one that I came up with either. It’s actually quite common as is the “Fag bag”. Same goes for just about every other race, religion, political stance or sex. I had a Negro (hope that’s the right word nowadays) get pissed because I referred to him as “black” during a casual conversation. He told me he’s not black, but kiwi. He wanted to be referred to as an African American. Great…..what if he moves to Canada?? Is he then an African Canadian?

Peter, knock it off. Don’t put words in my mouth or make your silly, half witted assumptions based off your never ending anger at the world. I couldn’t care less if someone’s gay (is that the right word???), if someone’s purple with pink poka-dots or if you enjoyed the damn movie. What a person does in life and how they go about doing it makes them the person they are. Just because I’m a homophobe, doesn’t mean I think any less of them as human beings. Sleeping with another man is a thought that disgusts me….that’s all.

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