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#138958 - 05/22/06 12:36 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
HomeDad Offline
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Registered: 12/29/05
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Mike, Imho you've more than made amends for your choice of words, it certainly is not the first time something has been said to offend some on the board, and it certainly won't be the last.
I can respect someone who gives their honest opinion of what they think whether I agree with it or not, your posts have always been intelligent and helpfull and I hope you continue to stay active here.
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#138959 - 05/22/06 12:45 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Your assumptions in your first sentence is not true of everyone, and you don't know me from a hill of beans. I do not consider myself a Door to Door Bible thumper as you think all of us are, nor to I think that I have ALL the answers. I have a great family, a teacher for a wife, and two great sons. We try to attend church every weekend, but sometimes I have a tee time and don't make it. I like to fish, drink beer, and crank up my Axiom speakers, just like the rest of you.

However, like MDrew I have my own beliefs, and not sure why everyone is pouncing on him. Drew, I hope you stick around. Mark, sorry again.


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#138960 - 05/22/06 01:27 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 02/05/06
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You're right. I shouldn't have said "everybody's." I should have said "All too often, people are". Big difference. How I wish that I had that tomtuttle verbal precision!

And from your response, it sounds like that is not the case here. Fair enough. Good to know. But it does happen all too often, as evidenced by world events past and present, when one ideology tries to impose its views on another. So hopefully you can see my point of view and understand why my view of spirituality and the individual's pursuit of it is much better than my opinion of organized religion. Which is still better than my opinion a lot of other things, to be fair. Organized religion has done some great things over history. It's just that it's easy to see its flaws as well.

So at the risk of beating the horse to death, I'm not judging here. I may be self-confident, but I'm not the higher power! Really, there is no need for you to get so defensive. I'm afraid that you are inferring a lot into my statements. Adam was right that part of the problem in these kinds of discussions is that the parties involved cannot see the inflections and delivery of these posts. All too often the intent is misjudged.

Like I said in my PM, I have enjoyed becoming part of this community and enjoy discussions of all sorts. I echo your last paragraph.


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#138961 - 05/22/06 02:50 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Does anyone think I should have used a smaller aperture to gain more depth of field????????????????????????




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#138962 - 05/22/06 03:04 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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I don't think you'd want that beer glass any more out of focus.
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#138963 - 05/22/06 03:15 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 01/23/06
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Loc: Austin, TX
I like the glow of the beer in the glass... Makes me want to drink one right now...

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#138964 - 05/22/06 03:35 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Everything else aside, I think it is a great photo.
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#138965 - 05/22/06 03:43 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 07/13/04
Posts: 828
Loc: Newburgh, NY
the glass of beer does make me crave one. so if i were you take out everything else just leave the glass of beer. maybe a small killians logo in the corner would be helpful ( it is after all a beer ad).
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#138966 - 05/22/06 04:26 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Registered: 07/21/02
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I do. BTW, what aperture did you use?

P.S I'm not crazy about the shadow that runs down the center of the bottle from top to bottom. It makes it look like a thick seam in the glass. Also, on my computer, the beer seems to be red in color. Is it my computer or the real color of the beer? Also, you might want to loose the white letter/number stamp on the bottle.
I like the simplicity of the photo, not sure about adding props but the bottle cap makes a nice prop, maybe it could be a little more prominent.


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#138967 - 05/22/06 04:41 PM Re: Funny or offensive?
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Seriously, thanks for the praise, but I wasn't looking for accolades, only to defuse the situation a bit.

I think it's crystal clear that the "Brokeback" reference doesn't belong in a portfolio image and when I get around to re-shooting it, I'll come up with something different.

I regret starting this thread as it's turned into one of those ugly political threads that gets many hot under the collar. Certainly the strong feelings raised here accomplished my initial goal of determining if the "Brokeback" reference was too volatile a reference!

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