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#145564 - 08/22/06 12:32 PM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: Hutzal]
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 5426
Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
Wait until you try to buy a screen. The receiver will seem easy by comparison.

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#145565 - 08/22/06 12:42 PM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: bridgman]
Hutzal Offline
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Registered: 07/26/06
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Loc: Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3)
Bridgman,

I actually just finished drywalling my theatre room in the basement, and I chose the wall I want the screen to go on and drywalled it perfectly. I plan on a DIY paint screen using Behr Silverscreen paint mixed with some other white or something. The mix can be found on avsforum.com.

So thats nice and easy, and realistically, Spending $30 on paint for a 100" screen vs a $300 screen. Is it really worth 10x more? I will try the paint and see how it goes.

-Hutz.

PS: I am now looking at the RXV659 like an above poster said. I think I may admit myself into the crazy ward.
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#145566 - 08/31/06 04:39 PM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: Hutzal]
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Loc: Brandon, Manitoba
on a related note, anyone in Canada looking for a Pioneer 1015 would be wise to check Visions outlets. Don't know if these retails exist in Eastern Canada, but they are everywhere out West.
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#145567 - 08/31/06 09:05 PM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: Hutzal]
bridgman Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
>>I plan on a DIY paint screen using Behr Silverscreen paint mixed with some other white or something. The mix can be found on avsforum.com.

The stuff you mix in really seems to make a difference -- I think it's White Opalescent Pearl and Silver Metallic or something like that. After reading about a million avsforum posts (literally) my conclusion is that it is probably worth spending $20 more to go with something like RS-MaxxMud (also on AVSForum) rather than basing on Silverscreen. It takes a couple more paints to make the mix and you have to go to Michaels *and* Home Depot but the RSMM does seem to be a bit closer to "optimal" for about the same painting effort. The metallic content in RSMM does seem to be a bit higher so if you are rolling a bit more care is probably needed, but for spraying the RSMM seems like a no-brainer.

Silverscreen seems to have fallen sharply out of favour in the last week or so, but then avsforum is a fickle place


Edited by bridgman (08/31/06 09:08 PM)

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#145568 - 09/01/06 10:35 AM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: bridgman]
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Loc: Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3)
Are you going to use the RS-MaxxxMud?

I saw the mixes concerning that as well (I too have gone through thousands of posts). Silverscreen seems SO EASY to apply compared to max mud. It has 3 components instead of 6. I will not be spraying as I am going to be painting on a wall (currently finished drywall with mudding done).

I am not quite sure which route I am going to take. I actually really want to do maxxxmud, i just don't want to screw it up!

-Robb.
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#145569 - 09/01/06 05:25 PM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: Hutzal]
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Loc: Bowmanville, Ontario, Canada
I was actually thinking about doing Black Flame and buying the premixed paints from PB-maxx and MM's new side business :

http://xtreme-fusion-screens.com/

My reasoning was that the loft is totally uncontrolled and is quite bright during most of the day. I actually bought the Formica planning to use it as a substrate for painting, but now I have it mounted I am noticing that (a) I wouldn't really want the image to be much darker, and (b) most of my movie watching is after the sun goes down anyways.

Having said that, going to something like RS/MM is probably the right thing to do. I have a huge light splashback problem with the angled walls "above" the screen, so there is still a good chance that a darker screen would give me a better overall result. I have to admit I am surprised how good the image looks on untreated Formica, so the last few days have been spent worrying more about what form factor (2.35:1 or 16:9) to use rather than worrying about paint.

BTW, after much soul searching I have slipped back to a 1.85/16:9-ish aspect ratio for now. Per my own decision table (posted yesterday), I am DEFINITELY going to end up with an anamorphic lens but I am not sure I'm willing to put up with all the zooming and shifting required to make best use of a 2.35 screen before the lens appears in budget.

I need a chainsaw, a trailer, and a land survey more than I need an anamorphic lens/prism, unfortunately. Guess I will just match the aspect ratio of the "bars and all" projected image for now, whatever that happens to be.

EDIT -- "Tiddler" has posted some really good "advanced rolling instructions" on avsforum which, if followed, seem to be sufficient for a beginner to reliably apply RS/MM and get good results.

I checked yesterday and it does appear that a paint/poly/pearl mix like you were considering is still easier to apply because of the lower metallic content. I should also mention that the criticism of Silverscreen is only really saying "grey paint mixed with poly and pearl makes a great screen, it's just that Silverscreen is a bit too blue; you can get more neutral colours just as easily". RS/MM does seem to give a bit brighter image at the same "greyness" level due to the metallic content, however.


Edited by bridgman (09/01/06 05:30 PM)

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#145570 - 09/05/06 10:00 AM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: bridgman]
Hutzal Offline
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Registered: 07/26/06
Posts: 2102
Loc: Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3)
My room is completly light controlled. I still haven't decided what I will be doing (pb-Maxxx, Silverscreen with UPW and WOP I think), Alas I am putting up the last peice of drywall roofing today in the hallway. AFter that its just a couple more pieces left on the walls and I am done drywalling the whole basement (and done mudding the threatre room already).

Crappy thing is that I promised the wife I would finish the basement before buying any HT gear...HOW finished is the question at hand...

-Robb.
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#145571 - 09/07/06 04:38 PM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: Hutzal]
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Registered: 01/30/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Saskatchewan, CANADA
Robb - look at the Audioshop in Ottawa - I purchased a yamie 1500 on the web new very good price. If you like the 1600 you will never use all the power. I never get close to using the power I have on my system. I have a 350 sub with the same system you are ordering and am extremly happy.
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#145572 - 09/08/06 08:53 AM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: ferguson630]
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Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 720
Loc: Burlington, Ontario
This fits your budget, H/K 235 $499 @ Future Shop
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#145573 - 09/08/06 11:20 AM Re: Canadian Reciever Dealers, decisions! [Re: HAY]
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Registered: 07/26/06
Posts: 2102
Loc: Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3)
Thanks for all the input guys. Soundsaround in Calgary is having their annual liquidation sale on all discontinued models. In the Flyer they have the RX-V2600 for $998!!!! I am TEMPTED VERY MUCH to grab that just because of all the power it has and the ability to upscale all analog signals to 720p and output all signals through an HDMI port.

So i only need to run one cable to the projector. They didn't have the RX-V1600 in the flyer. I guess there are crazy lineups and junk for this annual sale. I will be showing up at 7AM to get in line.

Just to let you guys know how good the deals are, they have a Denon AVR-4306 for $1444 which is a KILLER deal. Its hard to resist that.

But if they have the RX-V1600 i will opt for that which should be around $300 less than the 2600. I'll also see if they have any Discontinued Denons on sale (lower models such as the 3806 or the 2806 which i doubt they'll have).

Anyway, I'll let you guys know what I got over the weekend!

I am PUMPED for this sale, this is the first piece of the puzzel I am purchasing, then the projector, then the speakers. I can't wait.

-Hutz
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