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Re: My Current Speakers vs. Axiom M50s?
dllewel #146175 08/25/06 04:29 PM
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I recently hooked up an old pair of Cerwin Vegas I used many years ago in a stereo set up. They are the LS15's and I swear I thought the tweeters were blown, they really do sound that bad. When I first started using my Axiom's I didnt notice the quality of the sound they produced was so much better, I needed a little time to get used to the new sound. The M80's will absolutely blow them away in terms of sheer volume as well. Not as much bass, (thats what the sub is for) but still what an improvement in sound. The specs on the Vega's only say 25-20,000hz. Hey that is better than the Axiom, goes lower!! Maybe it does hit 25 hz, but you probably couldn't hear it anyway. They dont give a +/- 3db or anything else to go by. I am sure if Axiom chose to rate their speakers the same way they could rate them as 20hz to 20,000hz as well, it just would not mean anything.

Now whenever I go to peoples houses and they crank up their little Sony mini-system I feel like smashing those little speakers and urinating on them, they really bother me now. I never noticed before.

Maybe I could convert those Cerwin Vegas into subs, they certainly aren't going to see any use as full range speakers anymore, not in my house. They might make good garage speakers. I wonder what everyone else did with their cheap speakers once they stepped up to some good ones.

I could donate them to Goodwill, or sell them in a garage sale. Maybe convert it to a subwoofer for my SUV. Any suggestions? They do weigh like 70LBS each.


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biggsly5000 #146176 08/25/06 05:06 PM
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LOL at your story.

I have a similar story, in that I have these Cerwin-Vega D1 speakers (2-way, 100W rated, about 25 lb each) from the 1980s that have been sitting in my basement for years. Man, back in the day, I thought they were the BOMB! I'd crank up the Rush and think that Power Windows sounded like I was in the studio with them.

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dllewel #146177 08/26/06 01:09 AM
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I hope this helps




Well, I can’t say I really understood all that you said, but I get the gist: Axiom will be better than what I have.

The real issue for me is making sure that whatever fronts I buy will be able to reproduce everything the new audio formats such as Dolby TrueHD throw at them.

Thanks for all the input! Cheers!

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Robot #146178 08/26/06 01:14 AM
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The real issue for me is making sure that whatever fronts I buy will be able to reproduce everything the new audio formats such as Dolby TrueHD throw at them.





As long as your source is up to the task the speakers will have no problems at all. No matter the format.


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Re: My Current Speakers vs. Axiom M50s?
Wid #146179 08/26/06 01:43 AM
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As long as your source is up to the task the speakers will have no problems at all. No matter the format.




"Source" meaning my receiver?

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Re: My Current Speakers vs. Axiom M50s?
Robot #146180 08/26/06 02:00 AM
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Your dvd player would be your "source".


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Re: My Current Speakers vs. Axiom M50s?
richeydog #146181 08/26/06 12:42 PM
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Really I guess it's the player AND the receiver. The player needs to be able to pull the data off the disk and get it out to the coax or optical port without mucking it up, and then the receiver needs to be able to decode it into all the right channels.

That's the nice thing about speakers. Their job never changes and they don't care about formats. They also don't care about whether the source is digital or analog, despite the "digital-ready" plaques on many inexpensive speakers


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bridgman #146182 08/26/06 06:54 PM
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I had a pair of 70's vintage 10" 2-ways for many years, paper cone tweeters and all. I looked a number of times but never found anything I liked better enough to spend the money to upgrade.Then the woofer surrounds disintigrated from old age so I bought some 8" 3-ways from a pawn shop for $60. Lost a little bass, picked up some midrange but the sound was about the same. Finaly, in 2000, I bought a pair of NHT super ones (similar to m3's). Lost far less bass than I was expecting and gained an obsene amount of detail. I would never go back.
The other thing I gained was placement flexibility. Those big-ass boxes have a huge footprint and in my case they were placed where they would fit- filed like cardboard boxes of crap. When I got the nht's they were like 20% the size of my first pair- I was now able to put them in the optimum spot(well, almost). Placement alone made as big of improvement as the speakers did.
Have a look at the basic shape of all the Axiom line- they ain't cubes. Now look at the shape of other brands- Paradigm for example. The lower priced models are all cubes- the higher the price the more like axioms they look. I think once you get your M50's dialed in you will just "know".
The 50's will be less of a jolt than 22's,60's,or 80's, but I predict you will feel a jolt of improvement.

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