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#153755 - 12/17/06 11:11 AM Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance
Tarun Offline
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Registered: 05/27/05
Posts: 295
Loc: Hillsborough, NJ
Hello all.
So I finally got my Denon AVR 2807 in and plugged up.
I did the auto setup procedure with the MIC at 6 locations.
While everything seems ok, the frequencies it selected were kind of strange. However, I left them alone and it seems fine.

My real concern is the distance it detected on my subwoofer. 25ft. My sub is about 8ft from the listening positions.
The manual says to set the sub crossover to its highest and to set the volume half way. Can someone please guide me here.... Has anyone done this on a denon?

Second and last question...what does denon consider reference volume? In other words if I want to manually set my speaker distances and levels then what volume level should I use to get the reference 70db?

Thanks all.
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#153756 - 12/17/06 11:59 AM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: Tarun]
michael_d Online   content
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Registered: 07/23/04
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Don't know about Denon. Havn't ever had one although I'm considering them now.

Me personally, I set the volume to 75 dbs at 0 trim to the mains with the channel adjust. Wherever the volume knob happens to be, is wherever it is.....

that's weird your sub distance is so far. My HK 745 did some pretty funky things to my set up when I tried their EZ EQ set up. I gave up on it and just set up the channels the old fashioned way with a SPL meter and tape measure.
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#153757 - 12/17/06 12:30 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: michael_d]
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Registered: 05/27/05
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Loc: Hillsborough, NJ
HK has dissapointed me really bad. First with that 7300 fiasco and second with the DVD 47 which will not pass proper audio using HDMI. Their firmware update for the 47 is 9 months late. Go figure. I have since gotten rid of all of my HK Gear and am now quite happy with this 2807 and my xbox hd-dvd setup. I have a cheapo LG upconverting dvd player which works great with hdmi at 1080i. I am quite content for the time being. I am waiting for Denon to release a hd-dvd dvd player with sacd etc...so we will see when they jump on that bandwagon.

Thanks.

ps. I too am considering the good ole analog spl meter and a tape measure at this point.
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#153758 - 12/17/06 01:32 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: Tarun]
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Registered: 07/23/04
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I'm sharing your disappointment. This 745 is supposed to be the end all of new generation AVR's. I find it to be a rather large disappointment. The 7300 just sounded better. The 745's build quality isn't all that great and I continue to find problems as I learn how to use all it's features. Hell, I just found out that all the S-vid and composite inputs will only pass a black and white signal. If HK can't figure out what's wrong with this thing I'm going to attempt to get my money back and buy something else. Enough of the rant.....

I'm looking real hard at the Denon 4306 or a Yamaha 2700.
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#153759 - 12/17/06 02:58 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: Tarun]
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Loc: Nirvana
Tarun

I’m not sure but this might answer your question about the subwoofer distance.

http://www.usa.denon.com/Denon_Audyssey_FAQs.pdf

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7. My subwoofer is physically closer than the distance reported by MultEQxt. Why?
Many powered subwoofers do not provide the capability to defeat the built-in low-pass filter. These filters, by their nature, introduce additional delay in the signal and MultEQxt finds that and reports it. The optimum solution is to turn the filters off (often called “LFE mode” in subwoofers). If that is not possible, set the low pass frequency to the highest possible setting and leave the distance reported as it. MultEQxt will compensate for the added delay and time align the subwoofer to the satellite channels so that the optimum blend is achieved.





I found this when I was researching what AVR to buy.
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#153760 - 12/17/06 04:27 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: grunt]
Tarun Offline
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Registered: 05/27/05
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Loc: Hillsborough, NJ
Grunt. Thanks for the response. I read that too. I am going to attempt it when my house is quiet so I can get an accurate reading. If not I am going to the traditional spl meter and measuring plan...
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#153761 - 12/17/06 04:27 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: michael_d]
Tarun Offline
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Registered: 05/27/05
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Loc: Hillsborough, NJ
mdrew,

I understand your pain..... Good luck on your future endeavours. Keep me posted.
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#153762 - 12/17/06 04:45 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: Tarun]
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
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I am going to attempt it when my house is quiet so I can get an accurate reading. If not I am going to the traditional spl meter and measuring plan...




Please post your results. I’m very interested since I’m also buying the Denon AVR-2807.
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#153763 - 12/17/06 05:04 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: grunt]
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Registered: 05/27/05
Posts: 295
Loc: Hillsborough, NJ
Quote:

Quote:

I am going to attempt it when my house is quiet so I can get an accurate reading. If not I am going to the traditional spl meter and measuring plan...




Please post your results. I’m very interested since I’m also buying the Denon AVR-2807.




Grunt.
Audesey or not, this receiver is impressive. I could go on and on about how much I love it. But lets put it this way, I gave up a HK 7300 and perhaps the 745 for this unit. I am impressed and will never go back to HK again.
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#153764 - 12/17/06 07:18 PM Re: Denon Audessey Setup - Subwoofer Distance [Re: Tarun]
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Registered: 09/16/05
Posts: 50
Hi all.
I have a Denon 4806. Every time I run setup, it sets my EP500 sub at 25 ft. I have been leaving it at 25 ft as per the Denon manual. I have setup the receiver using Audyssey. I have also tried changing the channel volumes and crossover, etc. Currently I am keeping everything just as it gets set by Audyssey. I also set the sub at "THX plus Mains." (Don't know if the 2807 has that setting or not). I also increase the Sub volume quite a bit to suit my taste. The way I have it now sounds pretty awsome. IMHO, I suggest you go with the Audyssey settings despite everything else you read. Listen to your system like that for a few weeks and then experiment with different settings if you wish.
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