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Re: Ready to upgrade
sonicfox #155422 01/09/07 09:09 PM
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Wow.... um... gee...


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Re: Ready to upgrade
sonicfox #155423 01/09/07 09:40 PM
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I might be able to afford it




But could you get it through the door.


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Re: Ready to upgrade
HomeDad #155424 01/10/07 07:27 PM
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Just went to a local reseller and saw Sony's HDTVKDL-52XBR3. I was quite impressed. Is the LCD worth the extra $$ to have 1080p? I know broadcasts are only 1080i and only Blue -ray is 1080p, but how soon does every catch up and 1080p is the thing to have? Sony announce a 70" LCD for a mere $33,000.


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Re: Ready to upgrade
bigjim63 #155425 01/10/07 07:33 PM
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I would bet that there will never be a broadcast 1080p standard. If all the studios just paid to upgrade their stuff to 1080i...

EDIT: Cancel all that. Just realized there was a standard already. Nemmind...

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Re: Ready to upgrade
bigjim63 #155426 01/10/07 07:49 PM
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Just went to a local reseller and saw Sony's HDTVKDL-52XBR3. I was quite impressed. Is the LCD worth the extra $$ to have 1080p? I know broadcasts are only 1080i and only Blue -ray is 1080p, but how soon does every catch up and 1080p is the thing to have? Sony announce a 70" LCD for a mere $33,000.




LCD's don't display an interlaced image. From what I understand, 1080i broadcasts contain all the frames needed to construct a 1080p signal.

A 1080p LCD will have a resolution of 1920x1080. I have 2 sets, one is a 32" 1080i LCD with 1368x768 resolution, the other is a 46" 1080p LCD with 1920x1080. The image is a little crisper on the 46" (for 1080i content). I think it's worth it.

Re: Ready to upgrade
packetlosss #155427 01/10/07 07:51 PM
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If it's 1366x768, it's not 1080i--it's just taking a 1080i input and scaling it. That would by why it's a little crisper on the 1080p set--because it actually has the right number of pixels!


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Re: Ready to upgrade
Ken.C #155428 01/10/07 08:33 PM
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All TV's display in their native resolution. So if its 768 or 720P the signal is scaled or converted to that. In the case of 1080P a 1080i signal is broadcast at 60fps....the 1080P set holds half of the interlaced signal 540 lines and sends it whe the next set of 540 at the same time. So its 1080P at 30fps.

Determine what you like to watch, lighting conditions, seating distance and viewing angle.

Plasma has great viewing angles, fast response time (usually 4ms)outstanding colour reproduction, but the glare off the protective glass screen can be an issue if you cant control the lighting conditions.

LCD has similar viewing angles, but normally slower response time, often 8ms which can result in some blurring diring fast scenes and not the level of glare that comes with plasma displays.

If viewing angle is not a huge issue there is also LCOS rear projection, both Sony SXRD and JVC HDILA have announced new 1080P displays that are in the 10-12" depth range for a 60" set. They have great colours, black levels,response time, good for well lit rooms, but are not as thin as LCD or Plasma and dont have wide viewing angles.

Science says the human eye can not notice the added pixel count of 1080 sets vs 720 unless really close. I seem to notice a slightly better depth of picture between the 2.

Good luck.

Re: Ready to upgrade
bigjim63 #155429 01/10/07 08:36 PM
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If I was to get another TV I would go with 1080p just to try and keep up with the new technology. Toshiba is also coming out with a 1080p HDDVD player this year.


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Re: Ready to upgrade
bigjim63 #155430 01/10/07 08:37 PM
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Hi BigJim and greetings to all from the CES in Las Vegas,

1080p displays do have more pixels than a 720p display. What this means is that you can sit closer to a 1080p display--about 4 feet from a 50-inch vs. 8 or 9 feet for a 720p 50-inch (LCD, plasma, or DLP) and see the same clarity.

Put another way, you can get a bigger screen--say 65 inches or more-- and view it from the same distance that you'd normally require for a 50-inch display. But if you normally sit 9 or 10 feet away, a 50-inch 1080p display won't appear any sharper than a 720p display at that distance because it is beyond the resolution of the human eye. So you have to move closer or get a bigger display.

I've just been doing a bunch of these comparisons here at the CES.

Again, I've been underwhelmed by the Pioneer plasma panels.
Some of the really stunning looking displays are from Panasonic (plasma and LCD) Sony (LCD), Hitachi, Sharp (LCD) and Samsung, the latter just a hair behind the former, at least in the show demos.

A number of the new LCD panels incorporate a dynamic backlight that varies with the picture information to enhance black levels, and it really works. Also the refresh rates of newer panels are at 120 Hz to reduce any lateral motion artifacts.

One of the really knock-out images was Sony's OLED (Organic Light-Emitting Diode) display of the 1/4-inch thick panels. No backlight is required as they generate their own light, but it's early. Most of the panels are 12 inches and the largest is 27 inches. None for sale, so it will be some years before we see consumer versions.

There will be more detailed info in the upcoming Axiom newsletter for January.

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Re: Ready to upgrade
HomeDad #155431 01/10/07 08:42 PM
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Oh, I forgot to mention Toshiba. I'd include Toshiba with the group I mentioned above.

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