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Re: Axiom M3 v2 vs Polk Rti6
dronevil #155507 02/07/07 05:13 PM
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>>I have a Paradigm cc and have not been overly impressed with it and truth be told I'm much more of a "music guy" than a "movie" guy. I'm just not sure a small room (14'x14') would be the right place for it.>>

Like Jason (Jakewash) stated (and JohnK should have stated), if you are REALLY tight on cash (as it looks like you saved up for the M22s, obviously you want your money to go far in your speaker purchase), I would also recommend an M2 ($148.50 from FO) or M3 ($162.00) centre.

The M2 will match your M22s woofers, the M3 will give you a deeper and more full sounding vocals than the M2 and won't noticably be different sounding than the M22s with 5.1 (I have M3 centres with M22 mains and can't notice anything).

That being said, buying an M2 or M3 for a centre is alot cheaper than the VP100 from the FO (for $252.00).

I would vouch for either a single vertical M2 or M3 centre for your room size over any of the VP series.


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Re: Axiom M3 v2 vs Polk Rti6
Hutzal #155508 02/08/07 12:55 AM
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Is there no one in Regina that has a VP100 or 150 that you could audition? If not how about a road trip to Calgary where there has been an explosion of Axiomites lately, I would gladly give you an audition.



I'm sure there's got to be Axiomites here in Regina, the used EP125 I picked up for $80 can attest to that, but I don't know any of them. Funny enough a road trip to Calgary may be in the works over the next month or so. I have a lot of friends who have moved to Mecca...oops I mean Calgary (kidding just a little SK humour) so my wife and I travel there a couple of times a year. Thanks for the kind offer, I might just take you up on it one day.

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Like Jason (Jakewash) stated (and JohnK should have stated), if you are REALLY tight on cash (as it looks like you saved up for the M22s, obviously you want your money to go far in your speaker purchase), I would also recommend an M2 ($148.50 from FO) or M3 ($162.00) centre.



I can't say I'm poor but the combination of a new baby, buying a new condo and car over the past 3 months and trying to pay off the neverending burden that is student loans has really taken a toll on my bank account. Boy do I sound like whiner! You hit the nail on the head though, I do want my money to stretch as far as possible without compromising quality. With the M22's I think I found the right fit.

The idea of having a M2 or M3 as a center is very tempting if I decide to go that route. I actually used a Polk R50 as a center for awhile, and although it's not in the same league as the M3 or even the M2, I was quite happy with the sound.

Now I have to decide if I want to go with an integrated amp or receiver. Decisions, decisions. Don't worry I won't bother anyone with that question....quite yet. Many thanks to JohnK and my fellow Western Canadians jakewash and Hutzal for the advice. I really appreciate it.

Re: Axiom M3 v2 vs Polk Rti6
dronevil #155509 02/11/07 12:10 AM
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After reading Hutzal comments, I just orderred a pair of M3s as center speakers to compliment my mains (m22). I have a KEF Reference center right now, it sounds too thin for my liking.

As for integrated or receiver, how about separates? Or atleast get a receiver with pre-outs.

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Cintel7 #155510 02/12/07 03:16 PM
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After reading Hutzal comments, I just orderred a pair of M3s as center speakers to compliment my mains (m22). I have a KEF Reference center right now, it sounds too thin for my liking.

As for integrated or receiver, how about separates? Or atleast get a receiver with pre-outs.




Glad to hear it, I am in love with my Parallel M3s. Please post your impressions when you get them in!


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Hutzal #155511 02/14/07 06:41 PM
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Well I finally ordered the M22's last Friday so they should be arriving very soon (I actually thought they'd be here by now). I'm definitely considering the M3 as a cc but I don't know if it will fit in the new t.v. stand that I bought last night. I'll have to do some measuring when I get home.

I can't wait to check out the M22's!

Re: Axiom M3 v2 vs Polk Rti6
dronevil #155512 02/14/07 07:30 PM
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I've been running an M3 as center for quite a few years now.

.....good stuff.

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F107plus5 #155513 02/15/07 12:15 AM
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How does one know if they can run dual M3's as a centre? I have a Yamaha HTR 5450 Receiver which the manual says is rated at 80W (8ohm) for the centre channel. Could I run dual M3's?

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DanielBMe #155514 02/15/07 02:46 AM
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Glad to hear it, I am in love with my Parallel M3s. Please post your impressions when you get them in!



I will gladly share my thoughts.

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How does one know if they can run dual M3's as a centre? I have a Yamaha HTR 5450 Receiver which the manual says is rated at 80W (8ohm) for the centre channel. Could I run dual M3's?




running dual M3s as center will either make your center configuratuion runs under 4 ohm or 16 ohm load. 16 ohm load is safer for the receiver but it will probably not give you the sound you would like. 4 ohm (higher ampere) load will probably draw too much current from your receiver which it may not be able to do, thus result in cliping. Even if you can drive it, I would get an amp for them or use the new amp for the mains. That way you can eleviate the receiver from driving all the speakers by itself. It probably only has a transformer and a couple of capacitors, so you will run out of juice driving all the speakers.

Under powering your speakers will cause them to sound "bright", have "muddy" midrange, no punch in low end or low end is "uncontrolled".

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DanielBMe #155515 02/15/07 06:13 AM
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Daniel, you don't know until you try. The fact that a receiver is officially rated for only 8 ohm speakers means that the rather severe FTC and UL tests required for a 4 ohm rating didn't occur, but doesn't necessarily mean that in real-world use one 4 ohm load couldn't be driven without shutting everything down. You also don't need to worry about underpowering because of the parallel operation; this actually takes less power. In any case, the indication of inadequate power is noticeable distortion on brief peaks, not more subtle effects on frequency response,etc.


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JohnK #155516 02/15/07 08:31 AM
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You also don't need to worry about underpowering because of the parallel operation; this actually takes less power.





John, running 8 ohm speakers in parallel will make it 4 ohm , that is half the original resistance, which requires more current (ampere). It should equate to more power being needed. Ohm's Law (V = I x R). No? anyways.. Never like Physics in college.

Daniel, John has a good point, you won't know until you try. Your receiver should have some protection circuitries built in that it will shut down automatically if too much current is going through it. At the very worse, you are going to blow a fuse; so you might be out a few dollars.
Goodluck!

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