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Re: M60 - small or large?
PeterChenoweth #164202 04/06/07 11:28 PM
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If it's like mine, it's not for different sources, but rather listening modes. Such as L7 Film vs. L7 Music mode.


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Re: M60 - small or large?
Joe_in_SC #164203 04/07/07 01:38 AM
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Joe, regardless of the pretty good bass response of your M60s, a good sub handles the lowest bass even better and relieves the M60 of some of the lowest bass burden. Set them "small" with a 80Hz crossover, which is a good compromise frequency, being high enough to take a significant load off of the speakers, but not so high as to make the sub easily localizable.

Incidentally, several receivers beside HK(e.g. some Denon and Onkyo models)provide for setting different crossover frequencies for different speaker groups.


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SirQuack #164204 04/07/07 02:13 AM
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Also, make sure your not using the crossover on your sub at the same time...



Thanks to everyone for the great responses. Small it is! My sub amp has a variable crossover range of 40-160Hz. If I use the receiver's setting for 80Hz, where should the sub be set? Should I turn it all the way up to 160Hz, or does it just have to be above 80?


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Re: M60 - small or large?
Joe_in_SC #164205 04/07/07 02:19 AM
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You got it right, if your sub does not have a "bypass" option on the knob, just crank it all the way clockwise to the highest setting to get it out of the way.


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Re: M60 - small or large?
Joe_in_SC #164206 04/07/07 02:21 AM
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Does your sub amp have a 'bypass' switch? That would be the ideal setting. If not, crank its crossover up as high as it will go, 160hz, in your case.

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Thanks to everyone for the great responses. Small it is! My sub amp has a variable crossover range of 40-160Hz. If I use the receiver's setting for 80Hz, where should the sub be set? Should I turn it all the way up to 160Hz, or does it just have to be above 80?





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Re: M60 - small or large?
PeterChenoweth #164207 04/07/07 02:23 AM
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ha ha I beat you Peter, and I'm up at the inlaws using their slowwwwww dialup connection, man I miss my DSL.

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Re: M60 - small or large?
dllewel #164208 04/07/07 04:31 AM
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>>If it's like mine, it's not for different sources, but rather listening modes. Such as L7 Film vs. L7 Music mode.

That is correct. The only thing that makes it work (in a wobbly, indirect kind of way) is that different sources tend to invoke different modes and that the HK receivers will automatically pick an appropriate mode, ie you never get Dolby Digital off a stereo CD.

It's confusing to work with, and there are a couple of things you have to do manually (I don't remember the details) but it does cover most of the things I wanted to do.


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Re: M60 - small or large?
PeterChenoweth #164209 04/09/07 02:22 AM
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I like my M80's set to small with the crossover at 60hz. I like the lows from the M80's, but I want my SVS to handle the really deep stuff.

So Harman/Kardon AVR's allow multiple crossover settings for different sources? That's very cool, and a very excellent idea.




That seems to be the sweet spot for my M80/500 setup. Although I find myself listening several times at various settings to find what sounds best for a particular recording. I will agree that for HT they must be set at small to get the most out of the LFE in movie soundtracks. As much as I like bass, that EP500 literally shakes the whole house and some music doesn't need that much - the 80's set to large are more than enough - imo.

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