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Has anyone here had a chance to compare HD against a good upconverting DVD player on a 720p display ?
For someone with an 1080p display going to HD now seems like a no-brainer -- we're past the initial teething problems and HD DVD prices are coming in line with regular DVDs.
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Regarding Nick's experience, I do wonder whether the difference would have been as profound on a smaller screen.
I would agree. There have been charts floating around here (heck, I even snagged one and posted it elsewhere at one point) talking about what resolution you need for best picture quality, depending on screen size and viewing distance.
The bigger the screen and/or the closer you sit, the higher the resolution needs to be. If you are watching SD DVDs on a small to medium screen sitting 14 feet away, you won't necessarily see a big difference in resolution, but the image itself should be brighter, with more contrast levels, etc. I have a 720p Sanyo Z3 projector and a 104" screen at home. I think that I could benefit a lot by jumping to an HD disc format, even if I can "only" do up to 720p.
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Has anyone here had a chance to compare HD against a good upconverting DVD player on a 720p display ?
If I could just "borrow" my friends HD-DVD player, I could tell you since I have a 720p Sanyo Z3 projector with a 104" screen. Not sure if I can make that happen as he knows that I would never give it back.
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Regarding Nick's experience, I do wonder whether the difference would have been as profound on a smaller screen.
I would agree. There have been charts floating around here (heck, I even snagged one and posted it elsewhere at one point) talking about what resolution you need for best picture quality, depending on screen size and viewing distance.
The bigger the screen and/or the closer you sit, the higher the resolution needs to be. If you are watching SD DVDs on a small to medium screen sitting 14 feet away, you won't necessarily see a big difference in resolution, but the image itself should be brighter, with more contrast levels, etc. I have a 720p Sanyo Z3 projector and a 104" screen at home. I think that I could benefit a lot by jumping to an HD disc format, even if I can "only" do up to 720p.
Given the screen size, I'd say a jump to HD will yield marked improvements in detail. That is unless you're sitting 50 feet away or something 
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Right. My point was that it may NOT be useful or accurate to project the profound high-def experiences of projector owners to all users. If people are still using a 50" plasma and sitting 10 feet away, I believe that the incremental difference in resolution will not be as significant. I think this is the chart originally contributed by jakeman from the www.carltonbale.com site. Good stuff. Also perhaps worth noting is that not everybody has 20/20 vision  
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Has anyone here had a chance to compare HD against a good upconverting DVD player on a 720p display ?
John, I've compared same title SD DVD's vs HD DVD's on my 720p Toshiba plasma using my Toshiba HD-XA2, as I've stated before the XA2 has the best upscaling I have ever seen, but the picture quality is still not even comparable to HD content.
A couple of the HD DVD's I own have the extras in standard content, I can switch from the extras to the movie in a blink due to the HD DVD's menu system, the results are to say the least dramatic in terms of how different the quality of the content is.
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Nice chart there Tom. Good for a general idea of the screen size / resolution scale.
A friend of mine brought over Hot Fuzz on SD DVD and we went back and forth between that and my HD DVD copy. The SD DVD was coming from an Oppo 970HD and the HD DVD was on a Tosh HD-XA2. The HD DVD PQ is top shelf and is a shining example of how much more detail can be gained when jumping from SD to HD. I even switched my HD DVD player to 720p for a bit and the difference was still just staggering.
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Has anyone here had a chance to compare HD against a good upconverting DVD player on a 720p display ?
For someone with an 1080p display going to HD now seems like a no-brainer -- we're past the initial teething problems and HD DVD prices are coming in line with regular DVDs.
Yes…. I had the HD-X1 back when I was still using a Panasonic 900 (720P display).
Actually, the difference in resolution between 720P and 1080P is not nearly as noticeable an improvement as going from SD to HD. Sorry, I’m sure you didn’t want to hear that. HD on 720 looks fantastic.
Resistance is futile guys. To those who just can’t swing it financially, or don’t want to for their own personal reasoning, my very best, and sincere advise to you is to simply not watch it. Don’t be baited, don’t act like the cat and gaze at the store displays…. Just don’t do it. It’ll do what it was intended to do, cost you money and make others money.
I just spent a few hours messing with my display calibration using my "just got it in mail today disk", DVE HD. Holy crap, I can see the stinking lines now to make adjustments and be able to see what I’m actually changing. Great disk, much better than avia.
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I just spent a few hours messing with my display calibration using my "just got it in mail today disk", DVE HD. Holy crap, I can see the stinking lines now to make adjustments and be able to see what I’m actually changing. Great disk, much better than avia.
I've had that HD DVD of DVE in my shopping cart a few times, but I never went through with buying it. After you play with it some more, I wouldn't mind hearing more thoughts on it.
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But HD-DVD technology right now has more capacity.
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So really, the space thing isn't a factor.... Yet... And by the time it is, we will have several more "layers" at our fingertips to tap into.
Yes, this is why I'm still pulling for HD DVD. More features (Managed Copy being the one I'm most interested in), half the DRM, plenty of space, cheaper players, and so far it's had more of the content I'm interested in. I can't see any advantages to Blu-ray.
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