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Re: Will this setup work with an HD-DVD player
HomeDad #176916 09/19/07 04:57 PM
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Wait, so your receiver is converting from HDMI (digital video) to component (analog video) to feed the TV? I thought HDCP specifically prohibited this to prevent the "analog hole" piracy/fair use method.


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Ken.C #176917 09/19/07 04:58 PM
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both outputs are from the player, component and HDMI.


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Hutzal #176918 09/19/07 05:06 PM
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Oh, ok. That makes more sense.


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Ken.C #176919 09/19/07 05:15 PM
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In this case running the test, the component cable ran directy from the DVD to the TV bypassing the receiver, the HDMI cable was still able to carry the HD audio from the DVD to the receiver while the component cables were carrying the video from the DVD to the TV.
I may have to test running HDMI from the DVD to receiver then component from the receiver to the TV to see the results.


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I'm almost certain that that config (#2) won't work.


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HomeDad #176921 09/20/07 04:32 PM
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Hi Homedad,

As Ken mentioned, I believe that the Toshiba HD-DVD player will output only 480i or p over component video cables because of the HDCP anti-piracy codes. If you use HDMI, then you can output 1080p or 720p if it's HDCP compliant.

My understanding is that no Blu-ray or HD-DVD players will output greater than 480 over component video because of the content protection. Hollywood lawyers don't want you making HD copies of their movies, hence the 480 restriction on component video outputs.

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alan #176922 09/20/07 05:02 PM
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I believe you are incorrect, Alan. They should output full res over component. However, there is a bit that can be set on HDCP protected discs (HDDVD/Blu-Ray) that will cause the player to downsample to 540i. However, no studios have set this bit on.

What is prohibited currently is conversion (full res) from HDMI with HDCP (protected digital) to Component (unprotected analog). And that should be prohibited in all HDCP certified equipment--TV, receiver, player, etc.


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Ken.C #176923 09/20/07 05:32 PM
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Hi Ken,

I think you are correct, Ken, though I do not believe they will output 1080p over component video.

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alan #176924 09/20/07 06:07 PM
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I did notice there was a difference in PQ when using component vs HDMI running from my XA2 to my TV, the XA2 still showed outputting 1080i, but my TV doesn't show what resoluting it's displaying so it could have very well been 480i through component. My XA2 will only output 1080p through HDMI.
Another question would be if the HD DVD was connected to the receiver via HDMI then component was run from the Receiver to the TV would the receiver take care of the HDCP issues enabling the component to carry HD back to the TV.
As a side note my old XBOX 360 add on HD player used component cables and was able to deliver a 720p picture through component.


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Quote:

and thus will not upscale SD DVDs to HD.




Can anyone tell me if a HD-DVD or BluRay player will make my SD DVD's look any better on a 720p 61" DLP TV than a good upscaling DVD player like the Oppo 971???

I have too many SD DVD's to start buying them all over again in HD, or BluRay, but if one of the players can make them look better than my Oppo I might be interested.


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