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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
Mojo #183903 11/16/07 02:45 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Mojo
Geeeez...sorry I asked.

Hey now, let's not be rude.
Some of the classic Tannoys have real class!




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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
chesseroo #183904 11/16/07 02:48 AM
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 Originally Posted By: chesseroo
My fav A/B test trio:


Here is a link to that thread of the review of those three speakers.

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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
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It is intersting that you said in that review you too found the M60s slightly veiled when it comes to vocals, just as I am always saying the M60s are not as forward as the M22s/M80s. The vocals do take a back seat to the rest of the music, unlike the M22s and M80s.

Thanks for digging up that link.


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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
jakewash #183918 11/16/07 03:46 AM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
It is intersting that you said in that review you too found the M60s slightly veiled when it comes to vocals, just as I am always saying the M60s are not as forward as the M22s/M80s. The vocals do take a back seat to the rest of the music, unlike the M22s and M80s.

Except that i disagree with that opinion when comparing the M22s and M60s, something i did a long time ago. The M60s to me sounded like the "big brother" to the M22. I did not find the upper end to be dissimilar at all. The midrange and bass differences were a dead giveaway though. Another A/B test could be in the future if someone locally has the M22s or M80s and wants to cart them over here for trials.

When comparing the M60s and a few other speaker brands, especially for the first time against the Tannoys, i was VERY shocked at picking out the 'more articulate' or perhaps even more 'bright' speaker as being the Tannoy and not the M60.

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Thanks for digging up that link.

I used to write alot awhile back. Too much perhaps.


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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
chesseroo #183924 11/16/07 03:58 AM
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I find the upper end on the 22 to be much brighter than on the 60 but that could be because the midrange and bass is more depressed on the 22 than the 60. Perhaps this thinness is causing me to perceive the 22s as brighter.


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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
Mojo #183926 11/16/07 04:03 AM
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That is possible mojo, but they've also tweaked some sound since my tests years ago.
They may have bumped and smoothed some things in v2 for both models since 2002.
As i said, if someone local gets M22s or M80s and wants to lug them over, i'll put them side by side in a blind A/B for kicks. The last time i did an Axiom vs. Axiom test was with the M40s and M60s.
Didn't need a blindfold for that one; they were so easily distinguishable.




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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
chesseroo #183927 11/16/07 04:06 AM
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eech, sorry about the big pic sizes. You can see the snot hairs on the underside of a tick in the carpet, i know.

I uploaded all the original large res shots instead of my internet sized versions. I've been a bit lazy in re-uploading them all again.

I'll work on it.

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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
chesseroo #183931 11/16/07 04:21 AM
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Is that an M40 on the left? Is its bass driver bigger than the 60 or is that an optical illusion?

Where's "local"?


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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
Mojo #183942 11/16/07 05:31 AM
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Optical illusion. Note that the 40 is about a foot (at least) in front of the 60, and I'm guessing it's a relatively wide angle lens.


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Re: M80/Nuance/Sansui/Bose...& another Frankenspea
Ken.C #184237 11/16/07 08:48 PM
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Yes the M40 is in front of the M60 and you can still see an easy size difference.


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