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2 VP 150's in a room 4000 cubic feet?
#184611 11/19/07 09:45 PM
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Has any body ever tried 2 VP 150's in a room equal to around 4000 cubic feet? Did it make a difference, what was the resutls.

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Worfzara #184613 11/19/07 10:00 PM
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I have one VP150 in my 4,000 cubes and I can stand anywhere in the room with the dialogue anchored to the centre.


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I have had my VP100 and VP150 in parralel centers for an outstanding centering effect in my meager 1500 cf listening area but it does open to another 1500cf area in an 'L' shape. I have found dual centers works incredibly well no matter which speakers you use.


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jakewash #184743 11/20/07 06:11 PM
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I have one VP150 in a much bigger room and have no complaints.


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SirQuack #184745 11/20/07 06:19 PM
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I know that audioholics.com preferred double VP150s with their Epic 80/600 package. Not sure how big their room was, but they said it sounded much fuller than a single VP150.


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Hutzal #184752 11/20/07 08:05 PM
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I am running a 6 channel amp with a 5.1 system. So I have an extra channel on the amp that is not doing anyting. My Rotel pre amp has 2 jacks for 2 center channel speakers, So all I would have to do is pick up a 2nd VP150 and go.

Or, I could pick up a 3rd Qs8 and go to a 6.1 system. Hmmmm, decisions, decisions.

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Worfzara #184757 11/20/07 08:07 PM
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I think a second VP150 would be better than a third QS8, this is just my opinion tho, I am running dual M2s above and below my screen and I think it sounds awesome.


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Hutzal #184762 11/20/07 09:16 PM
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I agree with Rob on this. A second VP150 would make a greater difference.


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If the VP150s are rated @ 6 ohms (compatible w/8 ohm AVRs), would that make the load 3 or 4 ohms?


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alexadams77 #184772 11/20/07 11:24 PM
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only if ran in parallel, it would be 3 ohms for a VP150 run in parallel, however, he has an extra 6th channel that he is not using, thus, the load will be the 6ohm standard.


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Hutzal #184783 11/21/07 12:07 AM
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I've had our VP150 parallel with our VP100 above and below the TV and really liked the sound, they were 3.45 ohms and was running them with an HK635....which ran 'em just fine.


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Worfzara #184834 11/21/07 03:15 AM
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Paul, if you have enough room behind your listening position(say at least 4')the additional back surround effect when playing 2 or 5 channel sources with DPLIIx would justify using another QS8 in back.


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JohnK #184878 11/21/07 01:57 PM
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My optimum seating position is about (front row) 9' from the back wall, the second row in my HT room is about 4' from the back wall. But my Rotel 1066 doesn't do DLPIIx, just Dolby Pro Logic II.


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Worfzara #184998 11/22/07 02:28 AM
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Guess I should've added the usual "etc." after "DPLIIx", Paul. You can apply Neo:6 with your 1066 to extract the surround ambience present in varying amounts in 2-channel material and send it to side surrounds and a center back surround. Also, DD EX can be applied to 5.1 movies to extract material from the side channels which is about equal in level in the left and right channels and intended to image in the back center, and send it to a back speaker for a better effect.


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JohnK #185047 11/22/07 02:48 PM
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Worf,

do you have a riser? If so, can your back row "see" the centre channel speaker right now?

That is originally why I decided to get 2 centres, above and below, for the second row so they get good centre channel sound too, and so does the front row with the bottom centre. It worked out well tho, because I really like the split centre channel above and below, it seems as though the dialog is actually coming from the actors mouths in the centre of the screen.


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Hutzal #185053 11/22/07 03:44 PM
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Yes, I can just see the EP150 from the back row in the seated position. In order for me to get 2 VP150's I would have to put both of them behind my screen. Now I do believe the screen material is acoustically transparent, but I would have to test that.


http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=184977#Post184977

If that is true, then I could put the single VP150 right in the middle of the screen, behind the screen material, exactly where most of the dialogue would be coming from. Would there still be a benefit to two EP150's in this case?

I would have to build the screen out a bit, 6” or so, to fit the 150, but that is defiantly doable.

Paul


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you may be able to lower your screen, and mount a VP150 above the screen, as the second row will not need to have a clear view of the VP150 anymore, this would save you from doing further construction on your screen.

A VP150 doesn't take up much room, and it can actually be mounted "over" your black frame, and when you look at it from below, it won't even look like it has been mounted over, as long as the projector as a clear view of the top of the screen for 16:9 material, you're good to go!


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