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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
Nachosgrande #190552 01/04/08 05:41 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Nachosgrande

My one suggestion on the Q4 and Q8 is to switch the soup cans from Chunky to a broth. You will get a clearer, more transparent sound, with much less muddiness...as if a veil was lifted over the speakers!



Haha. Classic. :-)



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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
danmagicman7 #190553 01/04/08 06:02 PM
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Nachos,

I disagree with your broth recommendation. The Chunky quality's of the soup are what tone down resonant frequencies coming from the speakers. The chunkyness will absorb frequencies rather than enhance them (as there are no chunks in broth to absorb frequencies).

I have not a/b'd my suspicions, but nonetheless think they are correct \:\)


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
Hutzal #190562 01/04/08 08:00 PM
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Hutzal,

You may have something there. My only concern would be colorations introduced to the sound via the chunks of beef and beans...


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
Nachosgrande #190570 01/04/08 10:07 PM
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Dan,

Wonderful reviews. Thank you. You've done a particularly good service for many that wonder about the differences between the different QS models.

I also agree with your comments on the 60s vs. 22s. And the 80s really are a wonderful blend of the best that the 60s and 22s have to offer.


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
Mojo #201541 03/23/08 04:58 PM
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I realize I'm quite late to this party, but I wanted to echo my own thanks for the reviews. Very good information hidden in this post amidst the (also incredibly valuable) recommendations for which type of soup can will work best for an A/B test. ;\)


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
myrison #201668 03/24/08 05:50 PM
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Dan,

My only problem with the review of the QS8's vs. the 4's is that you were not testing them for their intended purpose. The surround signals are not going to provide the same levels or frequencies that the main channels provide, hence the QS8's will be able to reveal "more" than the 4's.

I would be interested in a test that used them in their intended purpose.

Having said that, I really enjoyed the rest of your testing.


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
danmagicman7 #201672 03/24/08 05:53 PM
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 Originally Posted By: danmagicman7
 Originally Posted By: Nachosgrande

My one suggestion on the Q4 and Q8 is to switch the soup cans from Chunky to a broth. You will get a clearer, more transparent sound, with much less muddiness...as if a veil was lifted over the speakers!



Haha. Classic. :-)


I think that the "Organics" can would provide a much more "organic" un-colored, non-hormone sound sound that the Campbell can.


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
vassillios #201688 03/24/08 06:59 PM
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Hi,

Also very late to this party. Dan absolutely nailed the differences in the M22s' upper midrange tonal balance vs. the M60s'. Great comparisons.

When I'm up in Canada visiting, I've found that substituting the Habitant brand of pea-soup cans for chunky or any other brand adds a certain "Je ne sais quoi" quality to the QS8s' tonal balance. . .

Alan


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Re: My review: QS4vsQS8 + M22vsM60 + STF-2vs16-46P
alan #201699 03/24/08 08:52 PM
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Dan, nice review thanks.


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