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Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
Blue Grass Man #191628 01/11/08 02:04 PM
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Well, my room is a dedicated HT room but it functions as both an audio and video center. The room is 12' x 20' but the back opens up to a larger area. There are three couches in a U shape around the back of the room and there is a burber carpet over concrete. No other acoustical treatments (yet). I have the M80's about 8 feet apart (from center of woofer to center of woofer) and my ears are about 7 feet back from them (on a direct diagonal). I do have a 65" CRT Rear Projection TV between them which I'm sure is not helping the soundstage but for now, I have to deal with it. The speakers are about 2.75' from the wall (to front of woofer). I have a slight toe-in that targets about 4' behind my listening position

Also, I probably read the same bad review(s) that you did but I can tell you that I auditioned a number of speakers before purchase and the one I think most closely compared was the Paradim Reference Studio 100. If they were at the exact same price point, I would have gone with the Paradigm...but the difference certainly couldn't justify a $1,000 price hike...not even close. I also didn't listen to the Paradigm in MY theater, but rather on $25k worth of processing equipment/amps in a showroom so who knows how much of a difference that made.

I still play with them almost every night, making minor adjustments trying to find the "perfect" position.

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fatgh0st #191635 01/11/08 02:25 PM
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Thank you for taking the time to respond in detail. I found that helpful.Kind regards.

Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
Blue Grass Man #191650 01/11/08 03:46 PM
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Hi Blue Grass Man,

There's a reason that the crossover design of the M80 was revised (which altered the tonal balance in the upper midrange) shortly after I joined Axiom in late 2002 and the change implemented in the summer of 2003, so don't consider reviews of the M80 in 2002 as indicative of the M80 v2's tonal balance.

Incidentally, I play 5-string banjo and guitar and I think you'll be thrilled with the accuracy of the M80s with well-recorded bluegrass music, especially the sound of 5-string banjo, mandolin, dobro, and guitar, not to mention the "high and lonesome" vocals.

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Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
alan #191660 01/11/08 04:55 PM
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Thanks Alan,
Good to hear. I have too much time to think out here. Three weeks to go before the M-80s.

Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
Blue Grass Man #191662 01/11/08 04:58 PM
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The 80s are incredible!


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Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
Mojo #191666 01/11/08 05:09 PM
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Were you on VH1's I Love the 80's [sic] or what?

Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
CV #192091 01/14/08 12:56 PM
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Hey Alan,

If you'd like to hear an interesting alternative on Banjo playing, check out The John Butler Trio, Grand National. You may already be familiar but they are three guys who incorporate an amazing number of different instruments from strings to horns. There are a couple of blue grass influenced tunes mixed with a slightly more modern sound. If you don't like that, they change genres and instruments about 5 times through out the CD so it's hard not to find a song you like.

Really nice quality sound too. The stand up bass really vibrates nicely.


Hijack over. Sorry, just not often I get to talk banjo.


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Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
Murph #192139 01/14/08 05:38 PM
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It's a sin to mention the banjo without also mentioning Bela Fleck and the Flecktones.

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Uncle Dave Macon.

Re: Kliscph RF-3 vs M80
Murph #192258 01/15/08 01:14 AM
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Murph,

Thanks for the recommendation. I shall check them out.
And Bela Fleck and the Flecktones are amazing. His bass player (Victor. . .) is right up there with the best.

I think I have a photo of Uncle Dave Macon in an old banjo instruction book. . .

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Alan Lofft,
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