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Re: Speaker placement measurement question....
Blue Grass Man #191920 01/13/08 02:17 PM
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Mine are slightly toed in. Seeing how every room is different, as is individual hearing, I don't know how Axiom can come to that conclusion.


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Re: Speaker placement measurement question....
RickF #191926 01/13/08 03:23 PM
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Dude:
Forget the measurements....instead look forward to having your own tap come March...




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MarkSJohnson #191928 01/13/08 03:30 PM
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Whoa, now you're speaking my language Mark!


Measurements?? Who said anything about measuring anything anyway?





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Re: Speaker placement measurement question....
JohnK #191937 01/13/08 04:15 PM
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 Originally Posted By: JohnK
Rick, the relevant distance should be measured from the center of the woofer cone, also counting the distance traveled along the front and/or side of the enclosure.


So if somebody states their 17" deep 80's are placed 6" from the back wall, in reality they are 23" from the back wall and should be stated as such?

My primary reason for asking the original question was due to the equidistant issue regarding back and sidewall placement, in my warped mind I view the rear port as a sonic source from the speaker and try to integrate that into the placement of the speakers, but with a 17" deep speaker one can understand where there could be confusion with just exactly where the reference line should be regarding back and side wall placement.

It has always been one of those little nagging questions that often comes to my mind whenever I get into the measuring mood.


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RickF #191947 01/13/08 05:12 PM
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I e-mailed Axiom on this topic. Here is my e-mail

Hello,

When measuring the front mains for positioning do you measure from the
back of the speaker cabinet or from the center of the front of the
speaker. I know it is said to have unequal distances from the back and
side walls but it will certainly vary if there is no set rule on where
this measurement is taken.

Here is their response

Hi Rick,

Thanks for your e-mail!

My name is Brent; I'm an expert audio advisor with Axiom.

I thank you for your interest in Axiom Award-winning audio speakers and
taking the time to send us in your request.

Measure from the back of the speaker.


Rick


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The measurer should always give a reference to his/her measurements.

I used to have mine toed in and then I saw the light and straightened them. Toeing them in affects the response off of room surfaces.


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That's why it is such an individual preference


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Dang brother, you made it seem way too easy ... I suppose I *should* have emailed Axiom myself for the answer but then my personal post count here on the forums would not have increased, taking me just a little longer of reaching that all important goal of Axiomite.

I'm just sayin'.


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Rick, that's about right, but another 4-5" can be added to that 23" to account for the width of the front baffle. If the purpose of giving a distance measurement is to indicate acoustic factors rather than simply describing general placement in the room, then the measurement has to made from the driver in question. Distance from the back of the enclosure to the wall behind or from the side of the enclosure to the side wall isn't meaningful in this context.


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Wow. I'm inclined to agree with JohnK and am baffled (ha!) by Brent's response. I really needed to feel more confused today, so I want to thank all of you for increasing my anxiety and reducing my productivity. Help, JP!


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