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Sub cable help #192864 01/18/08 02:05 PM Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 108 A arcticair OP veteran OP arcticair veteran A Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 108 Can someone tell me if i need this type of sub cable to connect to my older EP175? Or would i get the same results with a single cable? Im going to run a 50ft cable so i just want to make sure i buy the correct one! Thanks M60 M3 VP100 VP150 EP175 Q4 PanyPTAE1000U LCD HD projector 120" Yamaha RX-V3800 PS3 20g, 360 ELITE

Re: Sub cable help arcticair #192865 01/18/08 02:13 PM Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 436 Austin, TX skyhawk669 devotee skyhawk669 devotee Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 436 Austin, TX You should be able to get the same result with a single cable (I'm assuming that you're connecting the EP175 to the sub pre out of your receiver).

Re: Sub cable help arcticair #192867 01/18/08 02:16 PM Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 738 London area, Ont, Canada Worfzara aficionado Worfzara aficionado Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 738 London area, Ont, Canada Line level RCA cables are pretty much all the same (contrary to what the Best Buy sales guy will tell you). Weather you go 3' or 100', it shouldn't matter. Don't break the bank on sub a cable, or any other for that matter. Buy cheapest 50' foot cable with RCA ends you can find. Just ensure the RCA connections are in good shape. Paul paul Axiom M80, VP180, Qs8, EP500 Epson 3020 Rotel RB-880 Denon AVR-990

Re: Sub cable help skyhawk669 #192870 01/18/08 02:21 PM Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 108 A arcticair OP veteran OP arcticair veteran A Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 108  Originally Posted By: skyhawk669 You should be able to get the same result with a single cable (I'm assuming that you're connecting the EP175 to the sub pre out of your receiver). Yes it will be connected to the sub preout line on the rear of my yamaha receiver. Is there a reason why older subs have the Left and Right input rather then the single one you see on todays subs? M60 M3 VP100 VP150 EP175 Q4 PanyPTAE1000U LCD HD projector 120" Yamaha RX-V3800 PS3 20g, 360 ELITE

Re: Sub cable help arcticair #192875 01/18/08 03:16 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. They have L/R inputs for stereo set ups when the preamp or reciever has no sub out. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #192883 01/18/08 04:19 PM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,102 Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3) Hutzal connoisseur Hutzal connoisseur Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,102 Hollywood. (Canadian @ <3) arcticair, I would suggest going to monoprice for all your cable needs... They have a 50' premium sub cable for $11.39 plus shipping. You really cannot beat that price... monoprice.com I have the 25' variant of this cable, and the build quality and connectors are top notch. Last edited by Hutzal; 01/18/08 04:20 PM. Producer | Composer www.robbhutzal.com

Re: Sub cable help Hutzal #192960 01/18/08 09:08 PM Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,056 Arlington, VA (NOVA) Capn_Pickard connoisseur Capn_Pickard connoisseur Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,056 Arlington, VA (NOVA) I've purchased the long run RCA cables from MonoPrice and can vouch for both their quality and their "heartiness". For the price, they are an unbeatable value. You might also consider linking a few smaller RCA cables, if yo've got them laying around, with some RCA links (AXIOM sells them, in fact). You won't notice any decrease inquality, but can save a few bucks and feel good about using exisitng cables rather than buying brand new ones.

Re: Sub cable help Capn_Pickard #192962 01/18/08 09:14 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,602 Winnipeg MB Canada B BrenR connoisseur BrenR connoisseur B Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,602 Winnipeg MB Canada Or do what I did and use a piece of RG6 coax with a couple of F-connector to "RCA" connectors on the ends. Everyone's got plenty of coax around, don't they? Bren R.

Re: Sub cable help Hutzal #192967 01/18/08 10:10 PM Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 395 Cold Lake, AB doormat devotee doormat devotee Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 395 Cold Lake, AB  Originally Posted By: Hutzal arcticair, I would suggest going to monoprice for all your cable needs... They have a 50' premium sub cable for $11.39 plus shipping. You really cannot beat that price... Except that shipping to Vancouver Island starts at about US$25. You'd need to be in the market for a variety of cabling and accessories before it becomes worth the int'l shipping. Last edited by doormat; 01/18/08 10:12 PM. M80s/VP160/QS8s/EP350; M22s; M3s.

Re: Sub cable help doormat #192990 01/19/08 01:01 AM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa the rg6 I have laying around seems to be stiffer than sub coax from places like blue jeans, etc... M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193041 01/19/08 06:24 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,602 Winnipeg MB Canada B BrenR connoisseur BrenR connoisseur B Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,602 Winnipeg MB Canada Oh it is and will be... it's solid core (thus how you get the pin) rather than stranded... but mine takes a single radiused bend from AVR to sub... no problems there. And it's something everyone already has... plus 75 ohm rated and shielded... everything you want! Bren R.

Re: Sub cable help BrenR #193063 01/19/08 01:20 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa Thanks man, I just purchased two of the new 350v3's to go with my 600 for my large room. Now I have to figure how to hook them all up, and run the cable around the room. I wonder if I can tuck between the floor trim and carpet so my kids won't constatly pull it around the room, hmmm. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193065 01/19/08 01:36 PM Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 738 London area, Ont, Canada Worfzara aficionado Worfzara aficionado Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 738 London area, Ont, Canada A good buddy of mine that does custom HT and whole house audio installations sold me these, a crimper, and wire stripper. I am sure you could get these things on Ebay too. This allows me to create custom cable lengths (RG6 and RG59). If I need a cable that is 19.5 inches long, I simply make one at that length. It really cleaned up back of my audio rack. I would recommend this to anyone who hates the look of extra long cables buldging out of the audio rack. paul Axiom M80, VP180, Qs8, EP500 Epson 3020 Rotel RB-880 Denon AVR-990

Re: Sub cable help Worfzara #193140 01/20/08 02:31 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta You can buy the tools at any good hardware store. I bought mine at Home Depot. Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Sub cable help jakewash #193149 01/20/08 06:37 AM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,441 Felton, California pmbuko shareholder in the making pmbuko shareholder in the making Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,441 Felton, California Some people forget that there are places called stores which exist in buildings that you can walk or drive to.

Re: Sub cable help pmbuko #193150 01/20/08 06:38 AM Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA C CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making CV Founder, Axiom Upgrade Club shareholder in the making C Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,077 Likes: 7 Richland, WA, USA It's all about the Segway now.

Re: Sub cable help CV #193155 01/20/08 01:19 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa Where does one find a decent subwoofer Y-Cable to split the LFE into two paths at the receiver? Monoprice does not seem to make one, that I can find... thanks, Randy M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193157 01/20/08 01:39 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa I just found this, would this be better than if I can locate a cable type version? Last edited by sirquack; 01/20/08 01:40 PM. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193169 01/20/08 05:06 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. One will not have an audio advantage over the other. I have used both kinds, Radio Shack sells both. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193177 01/20/08 06:26 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa I notice Radio Shack's website offers NXG, Monster, and a few other brands on the Y cables. Not sure they are in their stores though... M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193179 01/20/08 06:30 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. The one here stocks them, also some car audio shops are a good place to find them. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193181 01/20/08 06:33 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa so you just used their Gold series Y Cable to split out the back of your Rotel? I think my plan is since the SMS-1 has 3 LFE out ports, I will hook the 350v3's to that and adjust the freq for best results. Since the 600 is DSP controlled I'm not going to have it running through the SMS-1, just basically use it as an "anchor" as Jakeman likes to say. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193182 01/20/08 06:35 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. I don't any more, I have the ICBM now. I used to use them in that fashion. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193183 01/20/08 06:35 PM Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,210 Vero Beach, Florida RickF axiomite RickF axiomite Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,210 Vero Beach, Florida Rat Shack stores in our area carry those Monsters and the other brands, I'll go there for hard to find connectors and associated hardware only. Our local Home Depot and Lowes are both now carrying just about most A/V interconnects, cables and etc... that I'll most often need. Rick Our Room

Re: Sub cable help RickF #193185 01/20/08 06:42 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa I will be out today to Wally World and a few other places, I'll see what I can find.. I also am going to need additional coax for all the subs, and maybe a real long length to reach the 600, wherever it ends up. The 20 ft blue jeans cable I have is very flexible on placement, but was a bit pricey. Monoprice has very cheap/high quality subwoofer coax, but not sure it is as flexible. I suppise the RG59 is a little better than the RG6 in that category... M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193187 01/20/08 06:47 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. You might be able to find RG59F, F for flex. I have used it to make my own interconnects. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193191 01/20/08 06:50 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa RickF, I thought you had to work today? 4 hrs total drive time tells me you only worked about 3-4 hrs? M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193301 01/21/08 10:00 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa No luck at Wally World or Menards, just some really cheap thin guage splitters. Will try Home Depot and The Shack next. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193305 01/21/08 10:23 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. Car audio shops normally carry them. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193314 01/22/08 01:34 AM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa Strange, why car audio, and not stores that sell home audio cables? Seems more specific to home audio coax applications.. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193316 01/22/08 01:44 AM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. They use them for the same reason we do, to split the preout signals. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193321 01/22/08 02:59 AM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta And running 2 or more subs in the auto audio industry has been around for some time now. Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: Sub cable help jakewash #193323 01/22/08 03:09 AM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. Bingo Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193330 01/22/08 04:04 AM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa Not in the good old Alpine Camaro days for me, all this boomy crap is more iritating than audio in my book. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193331 01/22/08 04:10 AM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. Randy, I run dual 12s in a standard cab S10 and it is far from boomy. You can not even hear my subs with the windows rolled up. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #193334 01/22/08 04:24 AM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa That is because they are omni directional, ha ha M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help SirQuack #193366 01/22/08 04:10 PM Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa SirQuack shareholder in the making SirQuack shareholder in the making Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,840 Likes: 13 Iowa I picked one of these up today, now just have to wait on my subs and some additional sub cable from monoprice. M80s VP180 4xM22ow 4xM3ic EP600 2xEP350 AnthemAVM60 Outlaw7700 EmoA500 Epson5040UB FluanceRT85

Re: Sub cable help Worfzara #193916 01/26/08 03:18 PM Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 82 aham23 old hand aham23 old hand Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 82  Originally Posted By: Worfzara A good buddy of mine that does custom HT and whole house audio installations sold me these, a crimper, and wire stripper. I am sure you could get these things on Ebay too. This allows me to create custom cable lengths (RG6 and RG59). If I need a cable that is 19.5 inches long, I simply make one at that length. It really cleaned up back of my audio rack. I would recommend this to anyone who hates the look of extra long cables buldging out of the audio rack. so i ran the coax for my sub, but am a bit confused on what end to purchase. i know i need an rca plug to crimp on the rg6, but not sure which one. will this work? BNC Jack/RCA Plug Adaptor. thanks. Last edited by aham23; 01/26/08 03:19 PM.

Re: Sub cable help aham23 #193920 01/26/08 04:03 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. You will want something more like this Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: Sub cable help Wid #194022 01/27/08 08:37 PM Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 82 aham23 old hand aham23 old hand Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 82 do these types of ends get crimped down or just twisted on to the coax?

Re: Sub cable help aham23 #194025 01/27/08 08:55 PM Joined: May 2003 Posts: 18,044 NoVA Ken.C shareholder in the making Ken.C shareholder in the making Joined: May 2003 Posts: 18,044 NoVA Those look like they just get attached to coax. I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!

Re: Sub cable help aham23 #194066 01/28/08 03:21 AM Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,654 JohnK shareholder in the making JohnK shareholder in the making Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,654 No, it looks like the ones that you're pictured require an F-connector to already be on the end of the coax(which is probably what Ken meant). The little pin on the F-connector fits into the little opening shown on those connectors; the bare coax wire doesn't fit into them. An RCA crimp-on connector such as Rick pictured can be used on the coax, or you can put an F-connector on the end of the coax and then plug it into a separate F to RCA connector, similar to some of those that you pictured. ----------------------------------- Enjoy the music, not the equipment.