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#195555 - 02/08/08 11:55 PM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 02/03/08
Posts: 1898
Loc: Austin, TX
From all the reading I've done on the 875, definitely stay away. It works GREAT for some users, but there is a problem specifically with the setup you have (the DirecTV HD-DVR). Multiple users have reported that every time you pause, FF, RW, etc. a broadcast running Dolby Digital, you get a 5-10 second audio drop out (every time!).

I was set on the Onkyo for the same reasons (video upscaling), until I read all about the problems with the DirecTV box... Since then I'm totally sold on the 3808ci (thanks to some pointers from the folks on these boards). The Ethernet connection and awesome GUI were more than enough to impress compared to imagining trying to explain to my wife why my new $1000 Onkyo receiver causes the volume to mute every time you do anything with the DirecTV box!
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#195594 - 02/09/08 12:07 PM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: jakewash]
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Registered: 07/23/04
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
 Originally Posted By: mdrew

If you are really interested in getting top notch SD up-conversion, buy the Denon 5308CI with the Realta.


That's alot of extra coin for the 5308 just for the Realta chip. The one and only time I have run the 3808 as the main upconverter it looked very good on the 40" 1080P Samsung LCD.


Yes, I agree. Unless someone already has a few grand invested in an external VP (like me), the step up in price comes at a premium. But, the Realta is the best chip on the market. Depending on just how much user configuration will be allowed, I just might pick up the 5308 and get rid of my VP. My longing for an external amp will wane as well.
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#195679 - 02/10/08 01:25 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: St_PatGuy]
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Registered: 02/10/08
Posts: 3
I went through the exact same thing "Denon 2808CI or Onkyo SR875. Also keep in mind that I was upgrading from an older Denon model. After all the research they both have all the features and many more that you would need in almost any application. However if you look closer at the video portion IMOP the Onkyo comes out on top. I was unsure of the power output that Onkyo claimes to have per channel. And of course all us Denon owners know that what Denon states is always right on! I was stuck but do to the fact of the better video quality (HQV) I went with the Onkyo. I could not be happier. The 1080p upscaling is awesome. I have an older DVD player hooked up and it is amazing what the HQV can do to just a regular DVD. The HD-blu-ray is very impressive. Now not owning the Denon I cant say how well the upscaling is but if you are in doubt of the performace of the Onkyo I can personnaly tell you that it has performed well over my expectations. The setup on the 7.1 is also very cool. You just put the mic in your listening postions and run the built in program and your done. Of course you will want to do some minor tweeks but it gets you going in the right direction.

Hope this helps in you decision.

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#195681 - 02/10/08 02:07 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: wicsteel]
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7405
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Thanks for your input, wicsteel. It really is a tough choice. I really don't think I need the video processing of the Onkyo, and I'm kinda leaning towards the Denon. Still pondering my choices though.

The two things that really dissuade me from the Onkyos at this point are the lip sync and heat issues. I had an old Sony DVD player that had issues with the lip sync and it drove me nuts.
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#195801 - 02/11/08 12:09 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: St_PatGuy]
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Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10395
Sean, maybe you've been reading too much from those who've had "issues" instead of those who've been delighted and had no problems. In any case, on the lip-sync matter with some combinations of equipment, it appears(see topic 2) in the 705 owner FAQ ) to be correctible with the sync adjustment and/or the speaker distance settings in cases where it does develop.
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#195802 - 02/11/08 12:16 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: JohnK]
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7405
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
John, you're right--sometimes it's only the bad press that gets all the exposure. And, yes, I ran across that thread when I started researching the Onkyos.

Now, if I can just get Zoe to stop bugging me about turntables and can redirect my attention toward receivers again! ;\)


(Zoe, I'm just kidding.)
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#195803 - 02/11/08 12:24 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: St_PatGuy]
JohnK Offline
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Well, on that matter, although it's rather remarkable that such a grungy technology(compared to CD technology)managed to serve us even as well as it did for so long, it's long been obsolescent and no way can I re-develop an interest in LPs.
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#195804 - 02/11/08 12:27 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: JohnK]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 6720
Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.

So John does this mean tubes are out of the question \:D
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#195805 - 02/11/08 12:32 AM Re: Receiver help--Onkyo or Denon [Re: Wid]
JohnK Offline
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Registered: 05/11/02
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Yeah, I guess so Rick, although they've been out of it even longer.
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