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#199758 - 03/10/08 12:17 PM Trade Up or Not?
h317 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 51
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Yes, I should have purchased the M80 2 months ago instead of the M22s ... but here I am exploring the possibility of trading up to a pair of M80s.

A few questions:
1. I have read somewhere in the forum that Axiom does not recommend matching Yamaha with M80. Should I be concerned? I mean, Yamaha does not offer the same trade-up program as that from Axiom \:\(
2. I currently have a VP100, should I care for a VP150 for the M80s?
3. How about the sub? I have a <2,500 cu ft. room and a EP350v3. Is it good enough for the time being. Do I need another EP350v3?
4. What would be your trade-up priorities if you were me with a $ constraint? Fronts then center then sub?

Sorry for the long list of unknowns. Appreciate your helps.
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#199760 - 03/10/08 01:12 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: h317]
terzaghi Offline
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Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4840
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Being that you only ordered the m22's two months ago... I would call axiom and ask them if there is anyway you can pay for shipping and return them even though you are outside of the 30 day trial period. If you tell them you will place an order for the m80's at the same time they might cut you some slack...

worth a shot at least

Dopn't know about your receiver and the m80's though.

What yamaha do you have?
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#199764 - 03/10/08 01:33 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: terzaghi]
h317 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 51
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I tried the Axiom tradeup webpage. I am entitled to a $442 trade-in value (vs $461 that I paid) for the M22s and $239 trade-in value vs $250 I paid. So, all in all, it's not a make or break factor. Of course, by trigger-pulling time, I will definetly ask.

I may lose the value of the FMS16 stands that I paid for though \:\(

 Originally Posted By: terzaghi

What yamaha do you have?

RVX3800
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#199785 - 03/10/08 04:17 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: h317]
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
I know there have been a few using that receiver with good results with the M80's. The EP350 is as good as any sub Axiom has, no worries there, here is a thread where myself and a couple of other forum members did a comparison.

You could always go for the M60s which have a very similar sound to the M22 but not quite as articulate at lower volumes, IMO.
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#199867 - 03/10/08 10:54 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: jakewash]
h317 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 51
Loc: Ontario, Canada
 Originally Posted By: jakewash
I know there have been a few using that receiver with good results with the M80's.


Thanks, Jason. I have also read your review and am happy to know that the EP350 kicks ass. I most likely will order the M80s and VP150. If my receiver can't handle the M80s, I can always exchange for the M60s.
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#199873 - 03/10/08 11:06 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: h317]
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Registered: 05/11/02
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The 3800 has very substantial power into 4 ohms and should be able to drive M80s to levels which are more than needed for most applications.
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#199875 - 03/10/08 11:12 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: JohnK]
chesseroo Offline
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Registered: 05/13/02
Posts: 4732
Loc: western canada
 Originally Posted By: JohnK
The 3800 has very substantial power into 4 ohms and should be able to drive M80s to levels which are more than needed for most applications.

Perhaps John, but is it shiny?
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#199928 - 03/11/08 04:06 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: chesseroo]
h317 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 51
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Pulled the trigger and ordered M80s and VP150. Purolator picked the speakers up from Axiom already so should receive them tomorrow afternoon the latest.

Not that I don't trust the assurances from you guys but what should I be trying/looking for within this 30-day period to see if the 3800 can drive the M80s? If there is a problem, I would like to find it out sooner than later. Thanks.
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#199929 - 03/11/08 04:18 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: h317]
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13311
Loc: Iowa
If the receiver gets very hot to the touch that is a sign to be cautious. Or, if you crank things up and the receiver shuts down at louder levels, that is a sign it went into protection mode because it can't drive 4 ohm speakers at those levels without over heating.
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#199933 - 03/11/08 04:33 PM Re: Trade Up or Not? [Re: SirQuack]
h317 Offline
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 51
Loc: Ontario, Canada
 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Or, if you crank things up and the receiver shuts down at louder levels


Pardon my ignorance. How loud in db on a SPL is loud enough to test that?
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