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#201764 - 03/25/08 11:01 AM VP150 Concern
zzyzx Offline
buff

Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
I'm almost ready to pull the trigger, but still have a question regarding the VP150 center channel.

The set-up I'm considering is:
2 - M80
1 - VP150
2 - QS8
It is also looking like I will be using the Emotiva XPA-5 amp.

I have read on other forums and professional reviews about the VP150 being the weakest link in this otherwise awesome set-up. The comments that I have been hearing are, unforgiving, Harsh, poor off axis response, etc.

I also know that if the system is not calibrated properly any of the above comments can occur.

All the other speakers in this set-up have overwhelming positive comments and reviews, it's just the VP150 that I have seen in my research that is of any concern.

For those that have this set-up, what are your thoughts? Again, thanks for your help! \:\)

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#201766 - 03/25/08 11:06 AM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: zzyzx]
EFalardeau Offline
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Registered: 08/27/07
Posts: 3270
Loc: Laval, Quebec, Canada
I have read those reviews too and that was the reason why I chose to first buy a VP-150 before anything else. Once I got it, I was immediately convinced for Axiom. I was telling myself: if THAT is the weakest link, what a chain!!! My experience with it (and now I have two!) is only positive. It is true that with certain movies, it is important to have "Re-EQ" or other "Cinema Equalization" otherwise the movie-theater exagerate highs can become harsh.
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#201769 - 03/25/08 11:13 AM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: EFalardeau]
zzyzx Offline
buff

Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
 Originally Posted By: EFalardeau
I was telling myself: if THAT is the weakest link, what a chain!!!


LOL! Nice comment.

I wonder if Axiom has just not quite perfected the VP150 like the other speakers, or if that is indeed the sound they are looking for out of the VP150.

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#201773 - 03/25/08 11:34 AM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: zzyzx]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8283
Loc: Tacoma
About once a month, somebody who has never heard a VP150 perpetuates this nonsense.

Why on earth would a strong R&D company like Axiom - one that has been focused on its core business for ~20 years - either knowingly deliver an inferior product or be unable to discern its quality?

I understand people having preferences. What I cannot condone is the notion that Joe Consumer has some kind of insight or wisdom about speaker design that has miraculously escaped the notice of people who have done this successfully for so many years.

Harumph. Need more coffee.
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#201775 - 03/25/08 11:35 AM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: tomtuttle]
St_PatGuy Offline
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Registered: 03/07/05
Posts: 7400
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
Grumpy Tom! \:\(


(you make good points, though)
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#201776 - 03/25/08 11:42 AM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: St_PatGuy]
DaveG Offline
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Registered: 11/26/07
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Loc: WI
I have the VP 150, its performance is excellent in my opinion.
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#201782 - 03/25/08 12:24 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: tomtuttle]
zzyzx Offline
buff

Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 40
 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
About once a month, somebody who has never heard a VP150 perpetuates this nonsense.

Why on earth would a strong R&D company like Axiom - one that has been focused on its core business for ~20 years - either knowingly deliver an inferior product or be unable to discern its quality?

I understand people having preferences. What I cannot condone is the notion that Joe Consumer has some kind of insight or wisdom about speaker design that has miraculously escaped the notice of people who have done this successfully for so many years.

Harumph. Need more coffee.


Wonderful, thanks for the thoughtful and helpful response to a serious question.

I guess trying to belittle people in order to get your point across seems logical to you to support a great product?

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#201784 - 03/25/08 12:35 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: zzyzx]
tomtuttle Offline
axiomite

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8283
Loc: Tacoma
You're welcome. I thought my response WAS thoughtful and logical.

It has never been my intention to belittle anyone. I certainly meant no offense to you. I apologize for being curt.

Can you point me to the "professional" reviews that cite deficiencies about the VP150?

Axiom makes fine products. As a loyal customer, I'm just fatigued from four malcontents on the internet getting more mileage from their opinions than hundreds (thousands?) of people who are quite happy.

Again, I do sincerely apologize for my less than friendly tone.
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#201789 - 03/25/08 01:02 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: tomtuttle]
ihifi Offline
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Registered: 10/06/06
Posts: 280
Loc: CT
zzyzx,

Your choice of speakers are excellent, and I am sure you will like their performance. I have the M80s and the VP150, and the VP-150 matches the M80s very nicely. Few people complained about a sibilance regarding the VP-150, but I think this has not been an issue for the majority of the owners (? high frequency hearing loss \:\) ). Have you considered a local audition with someone who has this setup? You can also buy and return if you are not satisfied.

I didn't see a sub in your selections. Do you already have one or thinking about it?

John
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#201791 - 03/25/08 01:05 PM Re: VP150 Concern [Re: tomtuttle]
real80sman Offline
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Registered: 05/16/02
Posts: 1123
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Yes, the VP150 is a very good speaker, but it won't "blow you away" like the M80's & QS8's will. Because the others are SO incredible, they make a good speaker seem merely adequate. That's basically it in a nutshell. Or at least the way I hear things from the centre of my sofa. ;\)
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