Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners What would your advice be....upgrade or not?

The 80's are better, because they are Axiom's top of the line, that does not mean everyone should get 80's or that 60's aren't great. This is true with all speaker companies.

Blu, coming from someone that has owned both for over 2 years each, don't lose any sleep if you decide to go with 60's. Yes there is a difference, but I would not call it huge, especially if your listening at 1/4 watt.

What are your room dimensions, which wall will the speakers go against and how far from them will you be sitting?

This is true. I did try going back to the 8 Ohm setting and was not at all comfortable with the temperature of the 805 after some listening. Everyone's situation is different. I do not have a closed room as in lieu of one wall the room opens up into the upstairs area of my home. With the amount of open area I just felt comfortable with more power. This was taken during construction, facing right from the approximate seating position. The kitchen in the background also opens up to the left into a living room (hidden behind the upper flight of steps in this pic).

Every time I log back on here I think I get more confused and I seem to change my mind. So where am I now?

- I am for sure going to demo the M60s. It is going to me just a partial setup, but I should be able to get an idea about whether or not they will work.

If I still want to upgrade I am looking at these options....

a. Keeping the Onkyo and trying the M80s with it. Some people think this will be ok.

b. If it turns out I have issues I will add amp to run the M80s and maybe the center. Something around $500 dollars if possible.

c. The Onkyo is still within the 30 days and I could send back to Onkyo and try to find the popular Denon 3808ci that seems to be a favorite around here for around $1100.

These have all been approved by the wife....just have to make some decisions. Thanks again for all your input, I will learn more tomorrow....

WAF is half (sometimes much more) of the battle!

Sounds like you are on your way, try the 60s in 2 channel, which are the only speakers in question, and go from there. One step at a time.

As Mojo mentioned I upgraded from the 60s after hearing the 80s, but I was also going from M22s, and the drop in the vocal presentation from M22 to the M60 was quite large to me, so I HAD to upgrade, you are not me, so you need to make the decision on what you hear. Once I removed the M22s out of my HT room and just listened to the M60s with no comparisons, the M60s sounded really good. I really liked them and wished I could have kept them as well as buy the M80s.

And BTW, the sound difference between the Onkyo and Denon, well there isn't any, they are both good receivers, just the Onkyos are known to run warmer than Denons.

I'm late to the party but I'll add my 2 cents worth. Well actually I'll keep the 2 cents 'cause I need every penny I can get so I can get M80s as soon as possible.

Thats a fine spouse you have there. Regardless of how you decide, give her a big hug for all of us and tell her just how great she is.

I had the good fortune to be able to listen to both in and a/b audition recently. There is a definate difference between the 60s and 80s. At $300 more its a simple decision.

They do both sound very good.

Blame it on those nasty people at Axiom for pricing their top line speaker at pocket change above the M60.

Edit: Can't comment on the Onkyo as I don't know anything about it.

Phase one complete....all the boxes arrived this morning already. I must be lucky with my local fedex, all the box are in good shape. Now time to hook up the 60s and check them out.

My room is a pretty typical rectagular basment room. 24ft long, 12ft wide. The ceiling is dropped and is around 7.5 feet. The set up will be across the 12 feet width. The seating is against one wall, so I would guess that the speakers would be somewhere around 10 feet away.

Have a chance to listen to the M60s yet?