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#204811 - 04/20/08 08:46 AM Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume
Rick32 Offline
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Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 40
Hi,

I read a couple of threads in this forum and someone mention that with the M80 you hear more detail at a low volume level. (Compare to the M60)

Is that true?

I have a 12x12 room (not so big). So maybe the M60 will be OK.

But like almost all of you, I love to think I have the best!!!

My lessening will be 90% movies.

Thanks for you help.

Eric

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#204812 - 04/20/08 09:48 AM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: Rick32]
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Registered: 08/27/07
Posts: 3270
Loc: Laval, Quebec, Canada
I never heard the M60, but I can confirm to you that the M80 sound so good at low volume, that I usually prefer to listen to them at very low volume than use my headphones, which is phenomenon I never experienced with other speakers, including the month I spent with loaned Paradigm Series 100.
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#204815 - 04/20/08 09:52 AM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: EFalardeau]
Mojo Offline
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Registered: 01/21/07
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Yes, it's definitely true. They sound better than the 60s at low volume. And higher volumes too in my opinion.

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#204819 - 04/20/08 10:39 AM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: Mojo]
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Eric, for that sized room, I don't think your going to notice that much difference between the two, especially at lower volumes. Even at high volumes in that place, either model will bring a smile to your face. Yes here is a bit of a difference between the 60's and 80's, which would be expected with an extra tweeter/midrange.

I will tell you that my room is 9 times bigger than yours, and I owned 60's for about 3 years before I upgraded to the 80's. The 60's have great detail, in my opinion, and are killer for HT and movies as well as cranked up tunes. ;\)


Edited by sirquack (04/20/08 10:40 AM)
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#204823 - 04/20/08 11:57 AM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: SirQuack]
Wid Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
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Loc: The Peoples Republic of Il.
For a 12x12 room I would consider the M22s and put the saved money toward multiple subs. As has been said before a square room is bad on lower frequencies, hence the need for multiple subs.
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#204827 - 04/20/08 12:17 PM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: Wid]
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Your right Rick, and the worst type of room is when the dimensions are identical or easily multiply by each other.
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#204834 - 04/20/08 12:40 PM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: SirQuack]
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
In my 12x16 listening area which is open to another 12x16 in an 'L' shape, I could hear a difference between the M80 and M60 at lower volumes. It is near or at reference levels that I found the 2 speakers to be quite similar with the M80s still coming out on top but very similiar none the less.
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#204838 - 04/20/08 01:00 PM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: Rick32]
Rick32 Offline
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Registered: 04/20/08
Posts: 40
Thanks to all of you.

The reason I ask that is because I actually own Polk towers speakers (Monitor 50). At medium-high volume they sound good but don’t drop the volume because you lose all the detail.

My fist interest was for the M60 because of the size of my room. But now I want to be sure I will miss nothing since price is not really an issue here.

Eric

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#204841 - 04/20/08 01:06 PM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: Rick32]
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The m60's are a step above the "monitor" series, and comparible to the "studio" paradigms or higher. If you have ever heard some B&W 703's, they are similar to the 60's.
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#204923 - 04/21/08 08:10 AM Re: Difference between the M60 and M80 at lower volume [Re: SirQuack]
Murph Offline
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Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6865
Loc: PEI, Canada
I am currently using M60s as mains in a 12x12' TV room in the basement. I love the detail at any volume level. I can't imagine getting any clearer but it could be the old "don't know what your missing" syndrome.

I am not happy with bass in my room. I compare them directly to a second set of M60s I have in a much bigger and odd shaped room upstairs. It's music only and for that I get very pleasing bass upstairs and even disconnected the little sub I had there for a bit. It's pleasant, solid and consistent.

Alternatively in the basement room, I get disappointingly weak bass in the center of the room and boomy bass in the corners if I turn it up to compensate. I don't blame the speakers though. It's definitely my square. hard floored lightly furnished room.

If I was not moving this stuff to a new room, I would definitely be considering trying multiple subs to try and help out in there.
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