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Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
HomeDad #207614 05/09/08 07:36 PM
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I vote for change.


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Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
HomeDad #207615 05/09/08 07:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: HomeDad
Whoa, something got edited, I change my vote to option 1.


nothing was edited, but you are allowed to change your vote.


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Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
vassillios #207675 05/10/08 02:13 AM
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V, yes it's entirely possible that your concluding statement is correct and the Denon will do the job "just fine". You've been told that you should look into an Emotiva, but hopefully you've also been told that M80s have been used successfully for years with receivers similar to your 2307. You shouldn't assume a problem that there's a high probability will never develop. Get your M80s and enjoy them with your 2307. Then, if you have additional money that you want to spend on audio equipment, you might consider another pair of QS8s to replace the Bose 401s, rather than quite possibly useless extra amplification.


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Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
JohnK #207684 05/10/08 03:51 AM
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I ran my M80's with a lowly 1804 Denon for 5 months till the 3808 became to good of a deal for me to pass up. The 1804 worked just as good and ran cooler than the 3808 does, not that the 3808 is anywhere near hot, I just wanted the network connectivity of the 3808.


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Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
Hutzal #207707 05/10/08 03:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Hutzal
Vassillios,

There is a 3 channel XPA-3 coming out from Emotiva, ($649), that offers 350 wpc into 4ohms.

Perhaps get that one if you are only going to run 3 channels from an external Amp.


I'm with Hutzal!

Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
bugbitten #207813 05/11/08 11:21 PM
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Thanks for all the input guys....I was hoping the 2307 would do the job. I had planned on getting the M80's first and seeing how the 2307 performed....but I was sure I would need the Emotiva...but perhaps I won't...this is good news.


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Re: Amping my Axioms, please help.
vassillios #208065 05/13/08 08:57 PM
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My c2001 Pioneer Elite AVR couldn't power my M80's at loud volumes without clipping.

So I bought an LPA-1. I've had it for almost 18 months now and I absolutely love it. Zero regrets and I'm already on the pre-order list for Emotiva's new XMC processor that should be out this summer.

My M80's are bi-amped. I use channels 1,2 & 3,4 to do the M80's using Canare 4S cables from Blue Jeans Cables. I split the pre-outs with high quality RCA splitters. I know that bi-amping is a real point of debate around here. Some say it's snake-oil, and others say it makes a difference. I would say that the only way you're going to know is to listen for yourself. In my case, based on tests that I performed in my own den, I believe that there is a tiny sound improvement to be had from bi-amping them. Regardless of the SQ, I like the way they look when they're bi-amped with that Canare cable.

Channel 5 powers the VP150, and 6 & 7 do the rear QS8's.

If I'm really blasting it (100db+, all 5 channels) the LPA will get quite warm. Borerline 'hot'. You could put your hand on it and not get burned, but you would start to feel some discomfort after 4-5 seconds. Under normal listening conditions (5.1), it just gets warm to the touch.

I've never had any issues with thermal shutdown or clipping.

But I agree with JohnK; you might as well try the system with your Denon, as they're known to have pretty robust amplifier sections. If it works, spend your money on replacing those Bose surrounds first.


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