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#213319 - 06/27/08 03:25 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
terzaghi Offline
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Prolly get more response if you make a new thread.

You can make as many threads around here as you want... just look at peter and his 10,000 posts!

No experience with amps here but I am seriously considering the emotiva 2 channel amp for my m80's.

I think the denon 3808 should be more than sufficient for the m60's (and the m80's but hey... amps look cool right?)

I think you will only notice a difference at fairly loud listening levels (depending on the dynamic range of the source). For average listening levels and slightly above I do not think there will be any difference in sound between the denon and the emotiva.

There is nothing wrong with only driving the mains with a seperate more powerful amp and the rest of the speakers with the receiver.... that is what I plan on doing if I can talk the GF into letting me get the 2 channel amp. (the 2 ch version is out of stock and I have requested emotiva to send me an email when it is available.)
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#213325 - 06/27/08 03:33 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Some yamahas do not handle 4ohm loads very well. There is no such issue with the 3808 or Denon receivers in general. You've got plenty of power unless you play highly dynamic music VERY loudly in a huge room.

My 100w Sherwood has no trouble pushing my M80s up into 95db territory (plenty loud for me). I am usually listening at between 75 and 85 db and the receiver barely gets warm.
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#213370 - 06/27/08 06:25 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: fredk]
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fred, he has the m60's not the m80s.
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#213372 - 06/27/08 06:34 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: terzaghi]
fredk Offline
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In that case, he need at least two more pairs or M60s to suck up all that extra power. ;\)

The explanation does still apply to his example and he still dosn't need an ouboard amp.

After reading months and months worth of posts, I find myself pining for a 3808, bad manual and all.
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#213378 - 06/27/08 06:57 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: fredk]
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
In that case, he need at least two more pairs or M60s to suck up all that extra power. ;\)

The explanation does still apply to his example and he still dosn't need an ouboard amp.

After reading months and months worth of posts, I find myself pining for a 3808, bad manual and all.


fredk, I'm enjoying my 3808 quite a lot. I have a Diskstation and a HP Mediavault for external storage but they also have built in media servers. I was pleasantly surprised when I hit the Net/USB button, got the menu and saw that the 3808 automatically recognized both music servers and I can play music fron either. It also recognized a music foler on my regular computer and I can play music from there also

I really like the streaming Internet radio stations from all over the world. Some of them have excellent sound quality. I've never had a Denon product before and was kind of worried about the sound quality but with everyone's help I was able to get the settings right and if the music source is high quality it sounds great.
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#213394 - 06/27/08 08:57 PM Re: Speaker wire with new Axioms [Re: edmondwolfman]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
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Loc: Canada
It sounds like a bit of a bear to configure properly, but it sure does have some cool features. It seems like a well thought out product.

Since I have an htpc, I really don't need the network/web capabilities. It still dosn't stop me from wanting one though.
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