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M80's paired up with Yamaha rxv1700 and Nad c270
#223381 10/02/08 03:14 AM
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I have the M80's and will power them with a nad c270 power amp. Im looking at the yamaha rxv1700 as my receiver. Anyone ever try this with the m80's? Im wondering how they will sound? It is impossible for me to audition so i have to go on advise of owners.

Any advise?????????

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72mustang #223382 10/02/08 03:27 AM
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Are you using the Yamaha as a preamp with the Nad powering the speakers? If so, you shouldn't have any problems as long as the Yamaha has all the features you are looking for.


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72mustang #223383 10/02/08 03:29 AM
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Mustang, it isn't likely that you'll find someone here with that exact combination of components, but you don't have to, and an "audition" wouldn't really be helpful. Both the 1700 and the 270 are excellent performers within their designed limits and there's no good reason why they wouldn't power your M80s transparently without adding an audible sonic coloration.

Depending on the sound levels that you use and the dynamic range of the source materials, you may even find that the 1700 is entirely sufficient on its own. You might try that first and possibly save some money.


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JohnK #223406 10/02/08 07:20 AM
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I allready have the M80's, center 150 and the Nad c270. I still need a receiver and rears. Looking at the q8's and a Yamaha rxv1700, allthough i have not heard either. People seem to love the yammies and ive been offered the 1700 for a fair price. Ive heard the M80 are power hungry thus the reason i bought the Nad to power them and will use the 1700 to power the remaining speakers. I was just curious to see if anyone had auditioned the 1700 through any of the larger axiom speakers.

I hear alot on this site abou the Denon and Onkyo brands matching good with Axioms... but not to much regarding the Yamahas.

Curious minds want to know...
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72mustang #223407 10/02/08 09:06 AM
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Bruce, the M80s aren't "power hungry" and in fact are slightly more sensitive than average, requiring a little less power. Denon and Onkyo receivers(e.g., 2808 and 705)are probably mentioned here more often, but that isn't because they "match" Axioms better(any well-designed receiver does fine, and no worrying about matching is needed), but because their combination of features and price are most attractive to many of us. If the features and price of the 1700 look good to you, there's no good reason not to go with it.


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JohnK #223423 10/02/08 12:14 PM
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72mustang - I realize when hearing it for the first time, JohnK's advice probably sounds different than what you read on many other boards about buying a receiver that sounds best with xyz speaker.

I was the same way when I first started researching the Axioms and have learned a lot here since. For what it's worth, to give you a second opinion, the reason so many here like the Denon (2808, or more commonly recently the 3808) is because of its features, not because of how it sounds with the Axioms. I bought the 3808 for the fact that it connects to the Internet for firmware updates in-home as opposed to shipping it off, and the fact that it can stream music from your home networked PC through your Axioms, a very cool feature.

Also, on the M80s, the reason there is a perception that they are 'power hungry' is likely because they are 4ohm speakers and not 8 ohm like many other speakers. The irony of that perception, though, is that like JohnK pointed out, their sensitivity is very high (check the product specs page) which indicates how much volume (95 dB) they produce using a single watt of power, measured at 1 meter away. [this still amazes me what a single watt can do!]

Granted, you don't listen at 1M distance, and you'll want more than 95 dB at times, and the wattage requirements ramp up steeply as desired output and distance increase.

Many receiver manufacturers do not advertise that their units support 4 ohm loads from their units, when in fact in practice, many of those same receivers work just fine with the M80s, which has been confirmed here many times. With that said, there have been a few reports of certain Onkyo units running very hot with the M80s, however, I believe this is something they do with any speaker (based on other reports I've read), not just the M80s.

This is a long way of saying I agree with what JohnK wrote, but I thought it might be helpful for you to hear another opinion confirming his thoughts.

Keep the questions coming if you have them, we're happy to help.

Jason


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myrison #223430 10/02/08 01:53 PM
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The m80's are not power hungry, your yammy alone would most likely be fine. Or, using it as a Pre, and the NAD as the amp, you will be fine as well.


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myrison #223494 10/02/08 07:05 PM
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thanks for all the responces. Im fairly new to all this and just dont want to wake up next week thinking i should have gotten something else without checking first. Im not that up to date on all the "new" features that receivers are offering now, but im also not willing to shell out top dollor either.

Ive checked around in regards to the yamaha rxv1700 and the Pioneer Elite VSX-82TXS. I can get either one for the same price used.

Between the two, which one would you guys choose for what reasons? I know the yammy has something like 22 dsp's, but if its anything like my old pro logic receiver i usually only used one or two of them.

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72mustang #223502 10/02/08 07:23 PM
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Which one has the features that you want, it comes down to personal preference both are about equal in quality, IMO, although it appears as though you get more features from the Yamaha with it's 22 DSP's, but as you said you don't use them much.


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jakewash #223516 10/02/08 08:44 PM
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 Originally Posted By: jakewash
Which one has the features that you want, it comes down to personal preference both are about equal in quality, IMO, although it appears as though you get more features from the Yamaha with it's 22 DSP's, but as you said you don't use them much.




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