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Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
#224221 10/07/08 09:30 AM
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Maybe not a lot, but it's a start! Who's got $2k, I want a pair! Don't kid me baby, you're an audiophile, you know it's all about the subtley, now give me some love! You make me work so hard!

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Blind Test: Most Listeners Can Tell the Difference Between Speaker Cables

Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:23PM EST

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Skeptics (including me) love to laugh at people who claim they can hear the difference between stereo components hooked up with one cable vs. another. Can wires really be that important in the audio experience?

The Wall Street Journal put the question to the test at a recent audio show, renting a booth, and hooking up two sets of identical components, differing only by the speaker cable. One set used off-the-roll, 14-gauge speaker cable from a hardware store. Another used a pair of Sigma Retro Gold cables from Monster, $2,000 for 16 feet of cable total and "as thick as your thumb." The writer couldn't tell the difference and figured no one else could either.

Surprise: People who visited the booth and listened to both sets of equipment (not in view) preferred the expensively cabled audio equipment 61 percent of the time.

What's happening here? For starters, jokes and skepticism aside, speaker cable really does make a difference, at least up to a point. Try hooking up speakers with a single aluminum-wire strand vs. a real braided-copper cable (even a hardware store cable) and you'll easily hear the difference; the cheap cable will make the speakers pop and hiss. It makes sense then that continuing to move up the cable quality ladder might keep making a difference. But how far? Maybe gold connectors will improve quality another 1 percent. Thicker gauge a further 1 percent. I'm not sure I'd buy $2,000 speaker cables for an extra few percentage points in quality (in fact, I'm sure of it), and I am far from stumping for mega-expensive cabling, but it does seem plausible that the high-tech speaker cables might really make a difference, even if it's a small one, just by continuing to refine the connection from point A to B.

Also at work: For audio junkies (like those who visit a big stereo convention) who've fine-tuned their listening rooms, the difference may be even more noticeable than to those of us who have to watch movies and listen to music in noisy environments, surrounded by screaming children. This helps to explain how testers might prefer one cable over another at a rate of nearly two to one.

On the flipside: The WSJ found virtually identical preference for high-end CD audio (played from a $3,000 CD player) vs. a WAV file played from a standard iPod. The shocking lesson: Cables may actually matter more than the source of the music, at least while it's still in digital format.


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Re: Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
SatKartr #224222 10/07/08 09:53 AM
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Where did you get this from?


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Re: Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
jakewash #224223 10/07/08 09:56 AM
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SatKartr #224224 10/07/08 10:07 AM
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And for those looking for the actual article and not the summary from the blog.

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Re: Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
jakewash #224229 10/07/08 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the post SatKartr. Interesting article on all of the points it covered, not just the cable comparison. I'm curious whether I would have been able to hear the difference. I can't remember enough of my statistics classes (a true tragedy) to recall how to specifically calculate margins of errors and statistical significance, but a sample size of 39 seems like it would leave a decent chance that the results observed could be attributed to chance rather than to an audible difference. I'm not trying to be contrarian, but it does seem a question worth asking with the results being only 11 percentage points off of dead even.

Either way, it's an interesting article. If I had all the money in the world I'd have no problem wiring up my system up with $2K Monster cable, unfortunately I'm not there yet. \:\)

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Re: Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
myrison #224234 10/07/08 12:23 PM
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yeah, I blocked out as much statistics as I could after my final.


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terzaghi #224235 10/07/08 12:28 PM
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Edited as inncomplete post.

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Re: Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
terzaghi #224237 10/07/08 12:35 PM
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I wish I could remember statistics form 30 years past but I have enough trouble remembering what I had for lunch yesterday. However I woudd agree +/- 11% may be chance.


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DaveG #224240 10/07/08 12:45 PM
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Interesting none of the "speaker cables do matter" crowd has taken the million dollar challenge, they run for the hills. \:\) Did you also know you can't tell the difference passing DD or DTS through a coat hanger versus a coax or optical cable.

http://www.edn.com/index.asp?layout=blog&blog_id=1700000170&blog_post_id=1150015315


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Re: Proof that Speaker Cables Do Matter!
SatKartr #224241 10/07/08 12:46 PM
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I still contend that the great speaker wire (and amp) debate would make a great Mythbusters episode.

You can't tell me that there are more people interested in whether or not a shark can be blown up with a flare gun than there are wondering if that $500 HDMI cable or $5,000 speaker wire is better than its fractionally priced brethren. While the Mythbusters gang isn't perfect, I think they do a reasonably good job. I'd love to see them take a stab at this controversial topic.

Interesting article, but I'm sure it will come under serious fire from some around here.


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