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Re: Audyssey set up thread
Hansang #228163 11/03/08 02:59 AM
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Hmm, more convincing reasons to spend the 100 bucks on the upgrade... I feel myself slowly losing this battle... this weekend watching TV I really missed the Dynamic Volume Control... those loud commercials drive me nuts (especially when the baby is sleeping and one comes on!) ::grr::

Wait... now that I type it that way, I have a great reason to do the upgrade... "It's for the baby honey!" ;\)


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Re: Audyssey set up thread
michael_d #228165 11/03/08 03:02 AM
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Yes, Mike; the Audyssey results can't actually be "copied" into the graphic equalizer. It's far more complex than the fixed seven or so frequencies available manually, and also includes some time compensation. The indication of what was done at those few frequencies by Audyssey is only a crude representation of the entire process. Therefore the only choices available are keeping the one or more Audyssey EQs available or turning them off and using a simple graphic equalizer.


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JohnK #228229 11/03/08 07:04 PM
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Well guys, I ran Audyssey again and I'm in desperate need of some help. I followed the article and set my subwoofer prior to running Audyssey as follows-

volume- 9 o'clock
phase- 0
crossover-bypass
trim -flat

After the first measurement I calculated and stored everything, and then went to "check parameters" and my subwoofer was set to -6, so I ran the setup again after adjusting my subwoofer to 7 o'clock (which is where I normally have it set) it set my subwoofer to -2. Two interesting things occurred. The first was while going through the test tones the subwoofer sounded extremely low and lifeless both times. This is totally different from the first time I ran Audyssey; the base was very evident, and I would get a "rumble effect" that you could feel. I do have a ground loop hum which I don't think I had when I ran Audyssey for the first time, could this mess up Audyssey and ultimately my subwoofer setting? The second thing was the way Audyssey calculated my speakers-

Front left/right- +4
Center channel- +2
Right side channel- +3
Left side channel- 0 (interestingly, because of the design of my room this speaker is actually 2 feet further away from the listening position than the right side channel)
Right rear/left rear channel-there was a difference (sorry can't remember exactly from memory) between the two also but they are spaced out identically.

I gave up from a mix of frustration and short on time. Can anyone help me out please, and sorry for the long post but I'm trying to be as detailed as possible.

Thanks


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Ya_basta #228233 11/03/08 07:48 PM
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Cam, just wondering, how many positions did you use to set up Audyssey? It seems that 4-6 appears to be required to give Audyssey a chance to 'visualize' your room and make the proper adjustments.


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jakewash #228244 11/03/08 08:45 PM
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I only did the listening position and stopped because I was following the directions under part G."calibrate the subwoofer volume" where it states "3. After the first measurement process is complete, select "Calculate", then "Save" or "Store", then go to "Check Parameters"". I had planned on doing six positions spaced out 2 feet identical to the diagram but stopped because of the low subwoofer output as I didn't know if the ground loop hum could cause it, and I had to wait another day for my father or a friend to help me locate the problem. One thing that I haven't tried is loosening the screw (or whatever it is you do) on the back of my EP500.


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Ya_basta #228252 11/03/08 09:50 PM
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Cam,
Move forward with the six or eight (try them both). Don't worry about the seemingly feeble sub output. I had the same thing happen on my EP500 (using 3808 as well). The *only* thing I did after running 6 positions was to change the main speakers to small. I left everything else alone including the crossover settings. I can *ASSURE* you that my EP500 nearly knocked the wall down when the THX demo scene came out on the INDY4 Blu-ray disc.

For me, six positions were much better than eight. With eight positions, the center sounded muffled and the bass was very boomy! The CBS/FOX NFL shows with the constant "swhoosh" sounds on intro's nearly killed me. But now, it sounds PERFECT.


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Hansang #228253 11/03/08 09:53 PM
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Oh, BTW, I imagine the ground loop hum could affect Audyssey. You may want to address that first.


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Re: Audyssey set up thread
Hansang #228254 11/03/08 09:57 PM
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Allright, will do, thanks for the input. Did you use the six listening positions from the diagram spaced out by 2 feet?


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Hansang #228255 11/03/08 09:58 PM
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I wonder how much ambient noise affects Audyssey? It seems like everytime I run it the neighborhood dogs decide it's a good time to start barking in unison, or some dude wants to rev his car engine in his garage, or the neighborhood kids start yelling and skateboarding. I have the window shut and everything, but I can clearly hear it all.


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Re: Audyssey set up thread
St_PatGuy #228257 11/03/08 10:07 PM
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Try it at 2-3am that's when I usually run Audyssey, not much going on at that time of night, but I am in the basement and the rest of the family is 2 floors higher up so it doesn't bother them.


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