Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Home Theater m22ti worth upgrading?

Many people use 2 subs to achieve smoother response throughout the room and a greater "pressurization." Depending on your tastes that isn't stupid at all

Dang Luc, you must be going for a Post record lately.

I can't say as I haven't heard M80's at all, nor M22 with two subs, although I hope to achieve that goal at some point in the not too distant future.

for a 13 x 13 room the 80's would kill you.

Hi,
I may have asked the question in the past but wasn't able to find it. Does anyone went from the m22ti to the m80

I already have QS8 for the surrounds and a kick ass PSB 12" sub but was wondering if it would be worth to upgrade to m80 for the front.

But it's a 1500$ upgrade that I can't judge the value.

anyone did it?

I will probably upgrade my center to the vp150 my current axiom center is more than 8-9 years old.

thanks for reading

my setup is mostly 95% for movies/tv/gaming -- 5% music

What sub do you have right now? I.E. the model

hope your ceilings aren't 13ft tall, the worst room for peaks and nulls in freq response is where dimensions are the same or divisible easily by each other. The 80's will give you better bass response, but a lot has to do with how you have your bass management setup in the receiver, sub, etc.

Well, the difference in form-factor is pretty significant. Jason's room is dedicated to his theatre.

Luc, don't underestimate just how deep the M80's are physically. By the time you move them out from the wall a bit, the effective size of your room is going to be diminished by about a meter in that direction. Same thing with their position relative to the side walls.

If you have other furniture in that room, the M80's could disrupt your aesthetic.

Honestly, given the size of your room and the size of the M80's, I'd just stick with the M22's. Perhaps experiment with their placement a bit. See if you can borrow another sub from a shop or a friend to see if that makes a big difference for you.

Good point Tom - they do eat up a lot of the real estate, and in my room it's unimportant space as it's the first 3' out from a 100" screen... where no one will ever want to walk/sit/stand, etc. In a multifunctional room, that's a lot more space to chew up.

At 95% movies, I would go for a second sub to smooth out the bass.

I did a/b comparisons of the M22+sub, M60 and M80. They all sound very similar, but the M80 seemed to deliver more detail across the entire frequency range. The m22+ sub had a much more forward sound than the M80.

I was evaluating mainly for music.

Just got back from Mojo's where we had a nice listening session with the modded M22s, a stock set of M22 v2 and his M80s. I must say that there is a much closer sonic signature between the M22v2s and the M80s than I ever have had with my M22v1's. The 3 of us agreed that the M22v2+sub lost very little in comparison to the M80 or even M80+sub. My v1 M22s+sub never quite sounded as rich, as the M80s, although I felt the combo had more detail.

In light of this new found information, I must say that for your smaller room stick with the M22s and sub.

I have a 120" screen in there. My seats are not against the opposite walls so the m80 would be really near.

Wow, and to think I sometimes think my screen is too big for the depth of my first row of seats (92" screen, ~10 foot first row). You must feel like you're inside the movie looking at that 10' diagonal monster! Awesome.

Jason

Man, now that the audio gear acquisition side of my home theater is coming to a good resting point, I'm going to have to start looking at projectors. I mean, I won't actually buy anything until I can move it all down into the basement, which will be a while, but it's something to look forward to and plan for. I wonder how big of a screen I'll be able to manage down there. The bad news is the basement is short. I doubt it will even be 7' high with the suspended ceiling. Otherwise, there should be plenty of space to work with. The support beam situation will be something to work around, too, but it shouldn't be too bad. But yeah, hearing people talk about projectors gets me revved up since that's going to be the final piece that makes my system come together.

few pictures of a hd65 picture:

Also.. interested parties in the HD65.(without the screen) It's much cheaper there...

http://www.us1photo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=7398

Luc - those are amazing pictures. I think my picture looks that good live too, but I've never been able to take a photograph that comes anywhere close to capturing that good of an image. Nice work behind the camera!

Jason

I haven't figured how to get pictures as good as what I've found.
I intend to look at the exif metadata to get me started in the good direction.

hmm , you should say: nice work, ripping the pics from the optoma hd65 thread (avsforum) :-)

This is not countertransference - I just don't like you.