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Re: Bare Wire Termination with QS8
SirQuack #234021 12/10/08 04:21 AM
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He may mean aluminum... Either way, copper or aluminum "lamp cord" would be fine if the gauge was right.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
SRoode #234136 12/10/08 07:04 PM
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Boy, I can stir some stuff up! I'm not a metallurgist (surprise), but I think copper is brownish. One side of this stuff is silver - and I'm quite sure it aint real silver. I thought that was tin, or some other much cheaper metal of the silver-ish family. Aluminum seems possible, but I would think the stiffness of aluminum would cause cracking (again, not a metallurgist but I have welded aluminum, and I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night, and aluminum is pretty stiff, including the wire). Perhaps lead with a tin veneer to make it shiny? Either way, if it is copper, it is a strange color all the way through – tricked me, sorry to offend all those lamp cord fans. If it is not, and the other side is copper (b/c it is brownish), does it matter. I guess not, sounds like just about any conductive piece of metal (or wood, I guess) works without audible degradation by the group's experience. Tonight I was going to try connecting the speakers but running the signal through my 7 year old, but perhaps that is for another thread.

I'll pull the spool out of the trash and see if I can find a metal content to end the mystery. But I've dealt with a lot of copper wire (and aluminum wire) on the industrial side, so I'm pretty sure this stuff is not copper, but I would not want to disagree with those who have much more experience with silver copper wire. I would point out that the HDepot website just says this stuff is “copper and silver colored wire”. Not 99% pure copper as some have surmised. (Confirm for yourself: http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stor...ctId=100560760)

Perhaps all of this is a reason to get ripped off at BB and get some Monster cable - at least I feel confident it is copper (even ifs in a smaller diameter than they try to sell it as). Wow, what a long road this has become.
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Re: Is there amy copper in those wires?
Zimm #234137 12/10/08 07:07 PM
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So don't buy the one with a silver colored side. I happen to know that home depot sells two stranded copper wire of various gauges. Yeesh.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Zimm #234138 12/10/08 07:11 PM
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Zimm:
Don't feed the Monster. Check out something like this at Monoprice, a very well-liked and reliable cable and wire supplier!


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Re: Is there amy copper in those wires?
Ken.C #234140 12/10/08 07:18 PM
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So don't buy the one with a silver colored side. I happen to know that home depot sells two stranded copper wire of various gauges. Yeesh.

Look, I have my wire so I'm not pushing some agenda. This is all for discussion purposes as so many quickly said lamp cord is the best. Let's be clear, the only wire at that Home Depot websight says is copper, not copper colored, is the name brand name speaker wire by the companies that rip you off. I was looking for the often cited "cheap lamp cord" and what I got aint copper. Again, I don't care, I have wire on order that is copper. Just saying, all you lamp cord fans may want to tell the uninformed like me that the cheap wire you are talking about is not the stuff the sales guy at HD will call lamp cord. Its the stuff from AR and Monster and the other evil doers. Just saying. "Yeesh", exactly.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
MarkSJohnson #234142 12/10/08 07:22 PM
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Don't feed the Monster. Check out something like this at Monoprice, a very well-liked and reliable cable and wire supplier!

Thank you Mark. That is helpful information. I have also had good luck with HDMI and optics at BlueJeanscable.com (it think that is right) for anyone looking for a deal on non-monster (pun intended) wire. Never knew I could excite so many people with lamp cord.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Zimm #234144 12/10/08 07:30 PM
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Never knew I could excite so many people with lamp cord.

I should clarify. I was being sarcastic; it is a very good thing that so many actually came out to share their informed opinion. The fervor over lamp cord surprised me, but I look forward to the same zeal when I need to kill a peak at 50hz in my theater. \:\)


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Zimm #234145 12/10/08 07:31 PM
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What I'm talking about is the big spools of electrical wire that you get at Home Depot, not whatever they have on their website (which is horrid, as an aside). I've never used the term lamp cord, and I probably won't, due to that very issue. But you don't have to buy AR or Monster to get 14 gauge stranded copper wire. Go to a store, use the old mark 1s, and buy the 14 gauge stranded copper wire.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Ken.C #234148 12/10/08 07:47 PM
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I betcha if someone took took the same gauge speaker wire from any of the hundreds or thousands of manufacturers ... lamp cord, Home Depot, Monster, Monoprice, BlueJeans, Radio Shack, Lowes, China, Western Auto, Walmart, India or whoever and totally mixed the outside casings so that nobody knew what wire was in what casing the end result would be that no eff'n body would ever know the difference and it would more than likely remain that way for years and years of service on these wires.

Point A to point B ... it ain't rocket science kiddos.

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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
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I have this from monoprice as I prefer 12 gauge and am willing to spend the few extra dollars for the larger gauge just in case I and up with a long run. I also have the Axiom bulk 12 gauge speaker wire and to me, if looks and plyability are of greater concern, I would go with the Axiom.


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