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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
JohnK #234440 12/12/08 05:32 PM
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So the real action is outside the wire..


John, thanks a ton. While I do appreciate all the opinions (and occasional unrebuttable proof) that the wire does not matter, this actually helps cure the "why" that has persistently bothered me about this topic. It has always puzzled me that such a seemingly critical aspect of the theater can be so inconsequential. I didn't doubt my own ignorance, but appreciate the material to fix it.
Thanks again, Charles


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Zimm #234449 12/12/08 06:29 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Zimm
I bought the Axioum wire with the $100 gift certificate I got with the QS8s - the best deal around. Probably not necessary based on this thread, but makes me feel warm and fuzzy after all the cash I dropped on the system over the years.
Enjoy!


Yep, the Axiom wire is great - heavy gauge but real flexible and doesn't keep crawling out into the middle of the room like my Home Depot wire does (although the "two wires in a jacket" Home Depot wire seems to be better than regular lamp cord in that respect). Axiom also doesn't claim that their wire will sound any better, which gets them extra points in my book ;\)

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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
bridgman #234451 12/12/08 06:30 PM
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I agree. The Axiom wire is very nice to work with--great flexibility and feel to the outer insulation. Quality stuff.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
St_PatGuy #234470 12/12/08 07:44 PM
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 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy
I agree. The Axiom wire is very nice to work with--great flexibility and feel to the outer insulation. Quality stuff.

I used the Axiom wire because when I laid along the baseboard, it stayed along the baseboard. The only problem I had with it was being careful when I stripped the ends. The very fine wire makes it easy to clip a few off with wire stripper.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
JonHan #234475 12/12/08 07:53 PM
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the Axiom wire is great


Well, just to tie a bow on this thread by bringing it back to the original post: I got the wire - and the Axiom banana plugs! \:o

Of course, I can't actually use the plugs on the QS8s, but no matter, it's not worth returning them.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Zimm #234476 12/12/08 07:54 PM
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It's always nice to have extra banana plugs lying around. I certainly have a few pair....


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Ken.C #234477 12/12/08 07:56 PM
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Yeah, me too. You never know when they'll come in handy.


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
bridgman #234479 12/12/08 07:58 PM
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 Originally Posted By: bridgman
the Axiom wire is great - heavy gauge but real flexible and doesn't keep crawling out into the middle of the room....

John, are you sure you don't still have mice problems?


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
JohnK #234519 12/12/08 09:50 PM
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… the real information is carried on the outside of the wire.

John, strangely, I feel better about my ignorance now. After reading way too much of that information, I can see where well intended folk such as myself can learn just enough to be dangerous and buy into some of the claims of the cable industry. It seems that a lot of what they say is 3/4 true, it just does not make a difference in the audible signal – i.e., skin effects, LIZ v. Solid v. Strands, twisted pair per frequency, etc. Very interesting stuff.
But I have a follow up: based on the fields being transmitted around the outside of the wire, how easy is it to alter a signal with a stray RF or Electromagnetic field? In short, how important is shielding and what works best - foil or non-conductive material? I’ve heard it is of no concern at the signal levels of speaker wire, but now that I know it is not a stream of electrons running through the “hose”, I'm curious if the field is any stronger on higher level (voltage or amps??) signals and thus immune from interference.

I just can’t let this thread end! \:\/


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Re: Is there any copper in those wires?
Zimm #234544 12/12/08 11:18 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Zimm
I’ve heard it is of no concern at the signal levels of speaker wire, but now that I know it is not a stream of electrons running through the “hose”, I'm curious if the field is any stronger on higher level (voltage or amps??) signals and thus immune from interference.
Depends on how big the source is that is causing the interference, but for most our HT applications the field around the speaker wire is quite strong and is immune to any interference we would have in our homes.


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