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Re: W22's or M60's?
Murph #238416 01/06/09 04:03 PM
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In hind sight to that post, I have decided I'm wayyyy overtired.


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Thanks for the info.

We are building a 5500sqft house, and this room is going to be on the ground floor. I currently have the gameroom upstairs but feel too lazy to keep going up there!

We haven't started the building process on the new house, but want some thoughts before we do. Its a 8 month building process, and the wiring won't happen for a few months.

Just debating if i should wire for the w22's or for the m60's...

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Murph #238420 01/06/09 04:15 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Murph
In hind sight to that post, I have decided I'm wayyyy overtired.


Actually, I thought it was funny.

 Originally Posted By: fredk

I would check with Axiom directly on this one. It looks like they are still an encased speaker - they have their own box - so I would think that you would get a pretty good idea by positioning them on wall without cutting holes.


I wondered about that too, though it misses what is likely an important part of it's sound: the bass enhancement from the "Boundary Effect" every in-wall is designed to deal with...

It might be close enough for government work though....


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fredk #238433 01/06/09 04:59 PM
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Hi all,

Just wandering by. . .

Yes, you can get an excellent idea of what the W22s will sound like without drilling any holes by positioning them close to the wall roughly where they might be located. The enclosure is self-contained and ported, however as Mark points out, the W22s will have more bass when they are recessed into the wall because of the increased boundary reinforcement of bass.

The W22s will play loud in a "normal-sized" room--i.e. about 2000 to 3000 cu. ft--but they can't duplicate the clean SPLs in a big room that the M60s or M80s are capable of. Axiom's listening room is very much smaller (about 2,400 cu. ft. if that) than the room described in this thread. Generally speaking, the limitation of smaller speakers with fewer drivers, and smaller woofers, is maximum output before distortion or compression begins, along with deep bass extension.

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Re: W22's or M60's?
alan #238437 01/06/09 05:11 PM
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sounds like I am better off with the m60's or 80's...is that right? Any recommendations of one over the other?

what do I do with my center channel...should i get the inwall center? since i have a projector screen on the wall i am not going to have a TV stand...or do I get something to prop up the center channel?

If I get a 7.1, should I place some rears on the side wall halfway, or off the ceiling and place them right behind the sofa?

Thanks!

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Parin #238440 01/06/09 05:18 PM
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You can see by my pictures above, I just mounted mine to the wall below the screen using some black shelf brackets I found at the local home improvement store. I flipped the vp150 over as the slant gives it a nice direction towards my ears in both rows of seating.


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SirQuack #238441 01/06/09 05:25 PM
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If you have the space, which it sounds like you do, go 7.1. Especially with the new bluray technology out, why would you want 5.1 in this day and age especially in that deep room.

The "rear surrounds" go behind you, the "side surrounds" go to the side. You want them spaced out with lots of seperation to get the best experience, not all crammed close to each other. Also, you want them to be at least 2-3ft above your ears or higher works, for best results, mine are about 7ft off the floor.

Here is a drawing from Dolby on 7.1 layout, in a larger room, the speakers would be more spaced out.


http://axiomaudio.com/home_theater_layout.html


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Also, the sub is one of the hardest speakers to place, to get the best outcome. We will be glad to help, but for that room I would at least get the 350.


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 Originally Posted By: alan
Just wandering by. .

Ha! Good gue.. err, call by me. \:\)


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Murph #238444 01/06/09 05:31 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Murph
In hind sight to that post, I have decided I'm wayyyy overtired.

\:D I laughed. Feel free to post when you're over-tired any time.


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