Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Axiom vs. av123's Rockets

So Adrian,

You being in the market for speakers would rather not know of the problems being aired concerning AV123?

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btw I will be using a Denon 2309 to drive this pair and building on it later for surround sound. I would love a big sound coming from my fronts and being able to enjoy music again. Wish I had a larger room. BoB


That tells me Roocket 450's even more.


So Mark thinks I should be getting the Rocket 450's over the M80's. Any remarks?

Not at all Bob, what I'm really saying is that I hope all avenues were tried to resolve this problem first in a private way before going to the forums. Hopefully he did that, but as consumers, yes, this is important for the rest of us, to help us make informed decisions. As I said, problems sometimes arise, and it is how the company deals with these problems tells us alot about their customer relations. Sounds like AV123 dropped the ball here though. To answer your question directly, yes, I would prefer to know about any problems with a company/or their products.

When you have some time browse the AV123 forum. Problems are almost brushed under the carpet. Excuse making is to the point of ridiculous.

I think it would be important to know if Craig was comparing the Rockets to the newer M80s (as in v2s or just prior to the v2 designation) or to older ones. There were some substantial changes with the crossover made relatively recently which apparently smoothed the M80's response greatly.

From the sound of it, Craig's not necessarily a fan of a flat speaker response. That's fine, maybe you're not either. But that's what Axiom gives you--an honest presentation. Rockets have a reputation (and I'm merely referring to the reputation here) of being "warm"--eg rolled off on the top end.

A further note: Axiom, will you just send Bob his speakers already?

LOL!!....err, tell them to get mine ready too!

I have bought from AV123 in the past and it was a good experience. I was looking for a small sub for a bedroom system for my sons room. It was between the Hsu STF 1 and the xSub. I was familiar with the Hsu subs already and wanted to try something different. I went with the xSub and it has been a great little sub.

I will say this; Av123 was every bit as professional as was Axiom.

Yeah, historically, I've heard nothing bad (and many things good) about AV123's service.

I suppose each person has their own opinion, and I have never heard the 850's myself. Not supprised the more expensive speaker sounds better to some people. But, I have listened to my M80s for hours too, and never felt listening fatigue. And I not only own 5 speakers in the Epic 80/500 for almost 5 years, but also own a pair of AX'2 from 1986, and I have never noticed the vinyl to be fragile and prone to rolling at the seems.

Has anyone else ever heard of this problem with the vinyl finish from Axiom?

paul

Oh, I didn't notice that bit. I think that's completely false--it's very durable. My M50s still look pretty pristine, and I've had them for over 5 years. I think the seams are a bit more noticeable on the high gloss finish speakers--but it's not like the vinyl's coming off!