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"cognitive dissonance"....where the #*%^# is my dictionary?

forget the dictionary. Use wikipedia.

I wonder if wikipedia is in the dictionary yet?

Bob, at least two items in Craig's first reply deserve comment. First, the use of "clearly" is almost never an appropriate description of differences(even where audible differences actually exist, as they do in speakers)when comparing two high-quality items and falls into the same category as "huge", "night-and-day", "blows away", etc.

Also, as Fred has touched on, the comment that the Axiom vinyl finish is "prone to rolling" is contrary to both my personal experience and my observations over about seven years here. I also can recall only one instance(not related to shipping damage, of course)in which the owner complained of vinyl peeling. Since you mention that this is a concern of yours you should be aware that, contrary to the quoted comment, the Axiom vinyl veneer(yes, as has been pointed out, real wood finishes are almost always also veneers over MDF or similar, rather than what Alan has pointed out is the acoustically problematic solid wood)is considered to be a strong point. If there was a problem, veteran Axiom owners or forum members would be the ones who were aware of it. There isn't.

Hey all you hard working taxpayers helped pay for my Masters so I figure I should share something.

And just because you live in Canada don’t think your money doesn’t support the USAF.

I WAS concerned about the vinyl back then. Craig seemed to be somewhat authorative on many posts that I had read by him. When he wrote that in his email to me I was a bit concerned and started this thread

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=239375&fpart=1

on Jan 7. Many of you seemed to think I was talking about color but it didn't matter. There were 4 pages of posts and not 1 complaint of vinyl problems. I stopped giving Craig so much weight in his analysis after that. I also did pick up his alluding to the Axiom being fatiguing by his ambiguous comment about the Rockets not being fatiguing. I probably could have continued my emails until I became a convert but I'm not THAT slow.

I did check out Aperion and 1 other DI (i have to look back because the name escapes me) and considered trying the Aperion side by side. Aperion has free shipping both ways. I could just see my living room with 2 sets of everything.

Although Axiom has several great reviews, this forum is probably Axiom's best selling tool. How ironic that a certain competitor would consider shutting his down.

Here is a blind testing craigsub did of the Axiom M80's. His findings are quite contradictory to what he told BOB/335 when he was shopping for speakers. Check out post #40. Very interesting .

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17247&page=4

Bob

I have never heard of Aperion. Yes, I know, I live in a bubble. Anyways, I was on their website and they look pretty cool, their top speaker, 6t is less than half the price of the of the M80's. Reviews are very good on them.

What made you decide on Axiom over Aperion without hearing them?

paul

That doesn't surprise me whatsoever, nothing personally against Craig but I usually take any of these personal test and comparisons with a grain of salt ... heck I base very little value in most 'professional' reviewers.