Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Lies and half truth about Axiom

Just for the record, Axiom has not always been an Internet company. They started inthe early 80's, and well, there was no internet then. I think they still had a few retailers in the mid to late 90's, but not sure on actual dates.

Yep, there was a time where they did sell in some AV stores around Canada I believe...of course 10years ago the m80v2 was not even out, so this sales guy is full of it... Besides the Axioms are more in line with the Studio Paradigms, not the monitor series.

I think it was quite a bit more recent than that, Worf, possibly even up to about '05. I remember coming across a few of their speakers on at least one Hifi site based out of T.O. I think the site was outdated and possibly that store no longer exists but it was still on the 'net. Maybe they were just selling off some few remaining stock, I don't know.

I'm not sure how long ago it was, but Axioms WERE sold retail in Canada for awhile... I believe they were even in Radio Shacks!

Of course, the point is moot because the dealer is assuming that the Axioms of many years ago are the same models sold today!

One of the dealers I went to (Monitor Audio retailer amongst others) said he used to sell Axioms "a while back".

I remember buying my first Axiom's in 1986 from a store called L&X Audio here in London Ontario. I was looking at a pair of Mission speakers (the ones with the tweeters on the bottom and the woofers on top). They sounded really nice, but the owner, told me about a new Canadian speaker that he liked even better. A week later I owned a pair of AX2's. And I still have them today (or at least my brother does, and he won't sell them back to me, don't think I haven't tried).

paul

Could be collectors items.

Well, maybe, someday. I was at my Dad's friends today, and he had a Akai reel to reel tape deck bought in 1968 for $650 (in today's money we figure that is over $3000). I mention to him that it should be in the Smithsonian, but by his look to me, I don't think he got the Joke.

I sold the AX2's to my brother in 1994 because they weren't sheilded. However with LCD and Plasma, that's not as big an issue to day as it was back then.

But he loves them so much, he won't sell them back to me, and I can't really blame him.

pn

I've always found this type of salesmanship rather sad. Instead of inviting you to compare products (because they are confident in what they are selling) they try to instill fear into the customer by badmouthing the competition. I had dealers do this to me as well, when they asked me what other speakers I was considering. They would say something like, they look nice but...and then not really elaborate, or they would kind of make one of those faces like 'well, do you REALLY want to waste your money on those' just to get you off track. Dealers did this to me on different brands, including Axiom and Monitor Auds which are both known for excellent sound. Buying from an internet based company is becoming less of an issue, at least where co's like Axiom are concerned, and this probably makes some of the hifis concerned so they resort to such tactics.
To say the M80s are "garbage" proves this salesmans lack of integrity and/or ignorance of the profession he works in. Paradigms, are in fact, very good speakers...just not as good value compared to Axioms which by most accounts are in line with Paradigm Studio sound but at Paradigm Monitor pricing.

R96, clearly that salesman told you numerous lies, but as has been mentioned, Axiom did sell through some dealers until about five years ago, so that may not have been one of them. For example, Marc Hallam of the Audioshop in Ottawa was an Axiom dealer who was fairly active for a time here on the board, but hasn't been heard from in over five years. Some former dealers undoubtedly had remaining stock after that date.