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Re: Sub Choice...
ClubNeon #246771 02/13/09 08:43 PM
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You'll get there...I know I did. It is nice that it isn't too hard on the wallet to purchase it. I have the BFD 1124 for the record. Some out there are that much. The Velodyne SMS-1 is, and apparently it's great feature is realtime graphs, but the popular concensus seems to be that the BFD is more customizable and powerful. You just have to run a sweep, adjust, run again, etc.


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Re: Sub Choice...
jakewash #246772 02/13/09 08:45 PM
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Agreed. My wife doesn't get it, but it's so much fun to see the curves change. The biggest thing holding me back from buying a new mic is that now I only have one input left which means I would have to buy another BFD to do the mains.


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Re: Sub Choice...
thefwam #246924 02/14/09 08:24 PM
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All BFDs should be come with a warning

"Warning: you may become so obsessed with flattening your room response curves with this device that you forget to listen when you are done tweaking." \:D

Jason


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Re: Sub Choice...
myrison #246928 02/14/09 08:49 PM
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Honestly, now that I have it in the range, now I have the urge to go back and make it smoother. must....resist....


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Re: Sub Choice...
SRoode #247290 02/17/09 12:29 AM
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 Originally Posted By: SRoode
I just use the spikes that come with the speakers. I did use their MoPads to get my center channel off of the entertainment center.

Is anyone else using MoPads? While I was ordering things I figured I'd get a set.

I don't think I can A/B quick enough to judge with my own ears, but when re-running the auto setup for my receiver after adding the QS8s today it now detects my center as "large", but without the MoPads it was "small". Actually I'm not even using the full MoPad, just the 4-degree wedge (I'd have to adjust the shelf height to keep the center from blocking the IR receiver on my TV and I just wanted to throw them in quickly). I instead put the full foam blocks under my Alesis, near field, studio monitors in my bedroom studio. They seem to produce more bass and are generally more clear than I ever remember.

Of course this all could be placebo...


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Re: Sub Choice...
ClubNeon #247293 02/17/09 12:34 AM
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I have MoPADs under a pair of Mackie 824s in my edit suite. I definitely prefer to use them after doing some comparing. I've never tried them under any of my Axioms though....


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Re: Sub Choice...
MarkSJohnson #247311 02/17/09 02:14 AM
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For my setup, the MoPads definitely made a difference. When the center sat directly on my entertainment center, the cabinet would tend to vibrate and carry resonant frequencies that seemed to be amplified. With the MoPads, it was greatly reduced.

I'm sure other cheaper foam items would work, but I never tried them.


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Re: Sub Choice...
SRoode #247921 02/19/09 11:38 PM
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Wow, finally made my up my mind on the sub. Went w/ the SVS PB10-NSD. Finally received it, set it up, sounds really excellent in my media/game room w/the M60's imo. Me likey.... Thanks all for the input !!

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pablo #247924 02/19/09 11:51 PM
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Very good. Congrats and enjoy. \:\)


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Re: Sub Choice...
merchman #247954 02/20/09 03:30 AM
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Holy crap, I HATE it when I stumble across another subwoofer webpage, they always make me rethink my Axiom choice.

Take for instance the Epik Conquest. 1000 watts of power pushing a single 18 inch driver down to a claimed 12 hz, for a couple hundred less than the Axiom EP600. Does it sound as good as the Axiom? I have no clue, but the propaganda write up on their site sure makes me wonder. Then there's the Element Design A7 - 900 beast... 1300 watts pushing twin 18 inch down firing drivers in a monsterous 435 pound package, Jesus Christ!!! And at $2200 bucks it is in direct competition with the new EP800, only it packs more than 50% more power... gosh how does a guy stay loyal???

Since I've never heard ANY of these subs its really hard to blindly part ways with so much money on any of them. I truely wish there was some huge Audio Mega-plex that had every sub you could ever dream of side by side for direct comparison so that you could really choose the right sub and get the most bang for your buck.

If I'm being honest I'd say that the ONLY reason I'm still stuck on getting the EP800 is because I truely prefer to keep my entire HT package under one manufacturer. The Element Design tower speakers didn't look to be even close to being in the same league as the Axiom M80's. And Epik doesn't make anything BUT subwoofers.

I'm not doubting that I'll truely love the EP800 when it FINALLY becomes available and I get it into my living room. I guess curiosity just get's the best of me sometimes.


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