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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Wid #249170 02/27/09 03:26 AM
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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
fredk #249171 02/27/09 03:27 AM
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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
hietpas #249184 02/27/09 03:42 AM
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 Originally Posted By: hietpas
I've often been interested in doing the pre/pro and amp thing...but I can't get by the fact I can but a very modern receiver like the 3800 that has both for so much cheaper! Why do pre/pros cost so darned much when receivers can do it all for so much less?



Back to this question, I was reading the write up by Tom Andry of Audioholics on the RPA-1 (the older version of the RPA-2) in which he compares the RPA-1 to a Denon 2307CI. Here's a paragraph that sort of answers your question...

"Still, you don't need to do a blind test to know the differences between a horse and a cow. The Emotiva Audio RPA-1 kept pushing the TK-5CT's and the Usher Audio s-520's to their limits rather than holding them back as the Denon did. I suppose "holding them back" is too harsh a term. The Denon faired well with these harder to drive speakers, much better than I would have thought. I was impressed overall with how loud and clean the Denon played but it really wasn't much of a contest with a dedicated two-channel amp that weighs more than almost two of these receivers put together!"


Now obviously he was using less efficient speakers than the M80's, but the point is separates shine if you're really going for ALL OUT performance. Anything 90% and below you would probably be fine with a quality reciever like a Denon. But if you're really into shattering your ear drums, or you want TONS of headroom to shake your house right off of it's foundation during the bomb blasts in your favorite movies... then you should look into getting an amp to truely drive your speakers to their limits.


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Wid #249194 02/27/09 04:00 AM
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 Originally Posted By: wid



That is a fine looking amp indeed. And at $1000 dollars it is also very affordable. For me the thing I'm most interested in the RPA-2 is the Type H class power supply which is very efficient and runs much cooler than A/B power. I've heard nothing but good things about Rotel though.


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M80's
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VP150
EP800
Denon 4802
Emotiva XPA-3
Samsung BD-P3600
Sharp 65 Inch Aquos LCD
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Micah #249223 02/27/09 06:47 AM
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Love it. The double blind test isn't to tell you the difference between a horse and a cow, it's to remove the idea that one might be a horse and the other a cow. Way to miss the point, dude...


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Ken.C #249224 02/27/09 06:55 AM
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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
CV #249246 02/27/09 02:54 PM
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Hi!
I read a lot of threads since I started this one and I am still in the dark... Well, not total darkness but...! :o)

I was not able to find much information about the musicality of the different amps. There's a lot of talks about power and dynamics but not much about anything else beside saying that they are good amps. For my part, I don't really care about a difference of 2 ou 3 hundreds dollars when I will choose my amp, but I would like something that will be in the hi-fi competition rather than on the " brut power" competition, so to speak (I know it's more subtle than that but I want to make an illustration).

I own a stereo Arcam Delta 90 amp with 2 Pierre-Étienne Léon M2. My main source at the time (bought this 20 years ago) was a Lynn turntable. I liked very much the set-up and that british amp was dynamic enough and had the caracteristics that I like. Pure, brillance, good bass, clear sound and a good 3d stereo impression (soundstage, is it?). (20 years ago, that amp was around 1200 or 1300$ to give you an idea). Compare to the NADs at that time, which were very popular, it was more "musical". For example, the Lynn company made vinyls records who were amazing. Listening to a jazz singer Carol Kidd album was an experience. You felt the band was in your living room with her singing in your face...

I want to keep this kind of perfomance switching to 5.1. And I am confused with the comparaison between the XPA-5 (A/B), UPA-7(A/B) or RPA-2(H), or Outlaw products... I don't want to peel off the paint off the walls or crack my window pain when watch a movie. My main concern is to get a very good quality of music when I listen to a good cd in stereo (or in 5.1 with SACD or else). I want musicality first. When I'll get that, I am sure that I will have a HT that will meet my expectation. Am I looking at the right products? I am prety sure I am but I want to make sure... Even if you can try the amps for 30 days, I want to have a pretty good idea before making any move.

Wow... :o) Any thoughts...?

Thanks!!

Marc

P.S. sorry for my english,. I hope everything is understandable!

Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Animal #249257 02/27/09 04:45 PM
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Queue the 'amps make no difference to sound quality' crew in 5....4....3....2.... ;\)

I have no thoughts, other than I had no idea that english wasn't your native tongue until you said something. You speak/type it better than most of the people I work with. Zero apologies necessary.

Welcome to the forum, BTW. \:\)


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
PeterChenoweth #249265 02/27/09 05:00 PM
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 Originally Posted By: PeterChenoweth
Queue the 'amps make no difference to sound quality' crew in 5....4....3....2.... ;\)


Many thanks Peter!

I don't understand the quote though... \:\( What do you mean?

Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Animal #249267 02/27/09 05:14 PM
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He is being sarcastic, saying that the people who don't believe that amps "sound" different will be along soon. \:\)

In my opinion, amplifiers do just that, they amplify the signal.


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