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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Ken.C #249300 02/27/09 07:10 PM
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Animal, this would be a good read for you...

Do all amps sound the same?


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SirQuack #249307 02/27/09 07:38 PM
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Thanks!

Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
SirQuack #249351 02/27/09 10:44 PM
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Yes, but this guy says
expensive amps sound better?




;\)
Just screwing with you, I'm not actually capable of having this debate as I lack the expensive amps or BS (the degree not the bull, I got plenty of bull) to have this discussion. Although i am very intrigued by the topic and would love an answer. I can't decided if I should be envious of Wid for his Rotel Amp or laugh at him for wasting money.


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Zimm #249369 02/27/09 11:58 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Zimm
I can't decided if I should be envious of Wid for his Rotel Amp or laugh at him for wasting money.



Be envious


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Micah #249375 02/28/09 12:27 AM
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Personally, I don't see Rotel, Emotiva, NAD and Outlaw falling into the esoteric category....

I just think of them as solidly built.


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MarkSJohnson #249379 02/28/09 12:46 AM
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 Quote:
I can't decided if I should be envious of Wid for his Rotel Amp or laugh at him for wasting money.


At least smile, that's what I do when I turn on some tunes and hear how damn good the setup sounds \:\)

I agree with Mark, 1K certainly isn't a big $$$ amp in my book. It sure seems well built though.


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Wid #249382 02/28/09 01:50 AM
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It has been a long time since I last visited, but here goes!

I owned NAD equipment since the mid-80s. Teamed with the classic Klipsch Forte IIs, I had a great stereo system.

When Outlaw Audio was formed, I was among the very first in line. The president of Outlaw is the same incredible engineeer who was head of NAD during the glory years of the late 70's to mid 80's. He went on to form Atlantic Technology, another company that was ahead of its time in many respects.

I bought the original Outlaw preamp processor and I still use it to this day. It does not have HDMI, but my Vizio display does. With the learning remote that came with the pre/pro, I have had no problems. The crossover is among the best in the industry.

I mated the Outlaw to a pair of used Parasound amplifiers from the mid to late 90's that I found on ebay. I bought an SVS subwoofer, a pair of M80s, a 150 center and a pair of QS8 surrounds. Between the Outlaw and the amps, I inserted Behringer 31 band digital EQs and between the Outlaw and the SVS I inserted a Behringer 10 band fully parametric EQ. After several hours, my system was equalized to flat to within a 1db room response.

Lately, I have added a Sony PS3, which my kids use for gaming and we all use for BluRay. This system will, at worst, match any system I have ever heard. The Outlaw is a gem, even if it IS nearly a decade old!

Outlaw also makes great amps, but you can find outstanding lightly used amps on the web for tremendous savings. My Parasounds retailed for about $1,400 when they were new, but I paid less than $600 and they were like new. After nearly a decade of daily use, they are still perfectly fine.

Oppo makes a fine DVD player.

For the money, these brands, including Axiom, are VERY hard to beat.

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willscary #249383 02/28/09 01:59 AM
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I don't know if I trust this guy, and I am no longer fond of ebay, but here is a heck of a bargain if the description is accurate:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Parasound-HCA-1203A-...%3A1%7C294%3A50

The old Parasound HCA series with the "a" at the end are outstanding amplifiers. The "a" at the end simply means that it has a dc remote power trigger input so you can use a preamp ike the Outlaw to turn it on.

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willscary #249385 02/28/09 02:05 AM
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Seller aside, that's one nice amp. I almost bought a Parasound HCA-1500A when I got the Rotel. If the Parasound dealer were closer I might have bought one instead of the Rotel.


Rick


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
SirQuack #249388 02/28/09 02:25 AM
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 Originally Posted By: sirquack
Animal, this would be a good read for you...

Do all amps sound the same?



This was a good read, I enjoyed it.


However, that particular test was based on differences in 1 watt playing conditions. The real value of 'better' made amps occurs when the volume is increased. As I've stated, if you like your music LOUD, then a separate, well built amp will pay dividends. A cheaper amp (like say something found in a $500 dollar reciever) will not play LOUD music to the same degree a well built amp will play it. The cheaper amp will introduce more distortion and clipping at higher volume levels.

And that's a fact.


My Stuff :

M80's
QS8's
VP150
EP800
Denon 4802
Emotiva XPA-3
Samsung BD-P3600
Sharp 65 Inch Aquos LCD
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